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Security Stations: worthless. BM only? or Stock as well?

Soumis par Mifely le Mar, 2008-08-19 12:27 Space Empires V General

I can build a cruiser with over 30 security stations on it... a couple boarding parties will destroy them all and capture the ship too (300 crew). Seems like I'm better off building cruisers with 1000+ crew members than I am with placing (more expensive) security stations on-board.

Anyone else run into this issue? I'm getting sick of it being abused in MP games, along with the overly powerful BM drones (which can transit all-at-once without having to flag "simultaneous transit", and thus are the ultimate warp point breaching technology).

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Re: Security Stations: worthless. BM only? or Stock as well?

Soumis par marhawkman le Mar, 2008-08-19 12:59

BM is better than stock here. At least here the security stations are smaller than boarding parties.

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Re: Security Stations: worthless. BM only? or Stock as well?

Soumis par Captain Kwok le Mar, 2008-08-19 15:28

There's actually an error in the defense amount for security stations in the Balance Mod. It's actually 4x weaker than it should be. Otherwise it should be 1 security station to defend against 1 boarding party.


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Re: Security Stations: worthless. BM only? or Stock as well?

Soumis par Mifely le Mer, 2008-08-20 15:45

The defense amount may also be off as well, but I think there may actually be a bug compounding the issue. A single party seems to be able to destroy all of the defending components -- security stations or defending boarding parties. I will have to run some more tests to be certain, but unless the boarding party defense amount is also way off, I think the issue may be bigger than just a data issue.

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Re: Security Stations: worthless. BM only? or Stock as well?

Soumis par Mifely le Mer, 2008-08-20 16:08

There's a caveat to the bug:

The attackers have to be numerous enough, relative to the defenders, to survive a full "round" of boarding combat. Then, no matter the odds, all security stations are destroyed. I did a couple of tests where the ratio of attackers to defenders was 8-to-1, and the attackers succeeded easily.

Assuming that the "troops" remaining are 1-to-1 converted to crew after the battle, the attackers appeared to typically have greater than 50% of their attacking force remaining, after winning a 1-vs-10 ratio battle against defending security stations and then downing the defending crew.

My test case:
Attacking Frigate: 7 boarding parties (max tech in BM, L11)
Defending Dreadnaught: 70-80 security stations (max tech, L11, with the BM 25% defending strength bug). +500 crew.

winner: Frigate, in every case where the attackers survived the first "round" of combat (which was most cases). If the attackers don't survive the first round, no damage is done whatsoever.

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