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Massive Planetary Shield Generators

Soumis par CokeMaster le Jeu, 2008-07-17 07:36 Space Empires V General

Massive Planetary Shield Generators

Hi

This is my first post so sorry if this has been mentioned before but what is the difference between Planetary Shield Generators and Massive Planetary Shield Generators?

The only difference I can see is that the Massive ones provide phased shields; do these phased shields also stop normal ‘non-phased’ damage?

Thanks

CokeMaster

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Re: Massive Planetary Shield Generators

Soumis par Randallw le Jeu, 2008-07-17 07:45

I compared them both a while ago. It seemed to me the massive shield generators were slightly less powerful, however the important bit, as you pointed out, is that the massive generators block phased weapons. Phased weapons penetrate normal shields. You can have thousand of normal shield points but they won't stop phased weapons. Use Phased shields and then you'll still have protection.

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Re: Massive Planetary Shield Generators

Soumis par CokeMaster le Jeu, 2008-07-17 07:57

Thanks for the advice Randallw.

Cost wise is it better to build both Normal and Massive Generators on a planet or can I get away with just building Massive?

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Re: Massive Planetary Shield Generators

Soumis par Randallw le Jeu, 2008-07-17 08:01

I've never built either, nor faced them as far asi I know. I do know they're expensive, and may take up a lot of space. I'm not certain but I know that shipwise mixing normal shields and phased shields does not add the phased quality to the normal shields. An enemy may well cut right through the normal shields before facing phased ones, or have trouble before taking down the phased ones then cutting through normal ones. There is a tech called phased energy weapons that penetrates normal shields but do less damage.

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Re: Massive Planetary Shield Generators

Soumis par Harmonious Hegemony le Jeu, 2008-07-17 14:33

I don't know how it works for planets, but if you combine phased and regular shields on ships the combination takes on the properties of normal shields allowing phased weapons free reign. I posted this quite a while back and Captain Kwok explained that it was just too tough to code how the damage would be apportioned to the different shield types. I never tried combining them on planets after that. Kwok will probably be the one to have to tell you how it would work.

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Re: Massive Planetary Shield Generators

Soumis par Captain Kwok le Jeu, 2008-07-17 14:56

I don't recall giving that explanation. Anyway, MM needs to implement damage distribution as per the entries in ShieldAndArmorLevels.txt - that'd solve the issue of mixed shield points. Sticking out tongue


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Re: Massive Planetary Shield Generators

Soumis par Darth Ruinus le Jeu, 2008-07-17 16:21

Normal planetary shield generators? Massive planetary shield generators? Wha? Did I miss something, I know planetary shield generaters are ruins tech, but I have never heard of "normal" or "phased" planetary shields.

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Re: Massive Planetary Shield Generators

Soumis par Jozsf le Jeu, 2008-07-17 17:17

Planetary Shield Generators are normal research tech tree.

The Massive Planetary Shield Generators are Ruins tech.

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Re: Massive Planetary Shield Generators

Soumis par Darth Ruinus le Jeu, 2008-07-17 17:40

Jozsf wrote:
Planetary Shield Generators are normal research tech tree.

What? What is the facility called? Wait let me check this out.

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Re: Massive Planetary Shield Generators

Soumis par Brad le Jeu, 2008-07-17 18:42

This is a BM thing, not stock. In stock you only get the Massive facility, it only provides regular shields, and it is a Ruins tech.

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Re: Massive Planetary Shield Generators

Soumis par Darth Ruinus le Jeu, 2008-07-17 19:08

Brad wrote:
This is a BM thing, not stock. In stock you only get the Massive facility, it only provides regular shields, and it is a Ruins tech.

Oh ok, thanks. I was feeling pretty silly for not being able to find normal and phased shields.

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Re: Massive Planetary Shield Generators

Soumis par Cerberus le Jeu, 2008-07-17 23:15

You can always use weapon platforms to generate sheilds for a planet.... Sticking out tongue

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Re: Massive Planetary Shield Generators

Soumis par Darth Ruinus le Ven, 2008-07-18 10:31

Cerberus wrote:
You can always use weapon platforms to generate sheilds for a planet.... :p

Mmh I didn't know that. Still, the shields would be quite weak wouldn't they?

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Re: Massive Planetary Shield Generators

Soumis par Cerberus le Ven, 2008-07-18 18:38

Depends how advanced they are, how many sheild components are on one platform and how many platforms you have on the planet.
And actually for stock this is the only way to get sheilds on a planet, unless you can find the Massive Planetary sheild generator. But it only generates normal sheilds, so to get phased sheilds on a planet you need to use weapon platforms.

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