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Big problem

Soumis par Aquila le Ven, 2008-06-20 16:22 Space Empires V General

Hi,

Please apologize me my English.

Few days ago I've downloaded a demo of SEV, version 1.25 I believe. It worked fine.

So yesterday I've bought a full version of this game. I didn't download it from any online shop, I bought an ordinary box with CD and short manual. Polish version 1.25.

Now I have three questions:

1 - in demo, during tactical combat, all explosions were visible. In full version when I create a simulated battle I can see missles but there are no explosions when ship is hit. Missle or projectile just disappears and there is no explosion. Is there any way to change that? Battles without explosions are much less attractive.

2 - What about AI? I've played for two days, encontered few aliens and they do NOTHING. They have no ships, no colonies and they even do not send me any messages or do not reply to my messages. It's like they do not exist. In demo it was absolutely different. They were talking with me, building ships and fighting (in full version I haven't engaded in any battle because there is noone to fight with - AI is not doing anything). Is it normal that AI sleeps like that? In theory they are there - I can see their flag, I've seen a message "we encountered a new aliens", I can send them a message but in reality it looks like they are not present.

3 - Is there any way to patch my game to newer version? I downloaded a 1.74 EU patch, but it obviously do not work. After installing it ask me about a serial, and when I type my key it says it is invalid. Or am I restricted only to this 1.25 Polish version?

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Re: Big problem

Soumis par Captain Kwok le Ven, 2008-06-20 16:45

To be honest, I haven't even heard of a polish version. Are you certain its a legitimate retail version?


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Re: Big problem

Soumis par benc le Ven, 2008-06-20 17:03

3 Are you sure it is licenced?
2 just download Balance Mod or Unnamed Mod and play it. This Mods have thier own AI scripts.

greetings from Ukraine, Polish friend Eye-wink

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Re: Big problem

Soumis par Astorax le Ven, 2008-06-20 17:28

Benc, he can't just download BM or any other mod for that matter because his version is stuck at 1.25. He would need to upgrade his Space Empires game engine and then download a mod.

Have you tried to download the US patch instead of the EU one? I haven't a clue whether its compatible with a Polish version though ...

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Re: Big problem

Soumis par Aquila le Ven, 2008-06-20 17:47

Captain Kwok - polish version was released about few weeks ago by nicolas games.

http://nicolasgames.pl/index.php?m=Main&a=ShowProduct&cc_id=16&cp_id=354

And this is my CD, to ensure that I''m not a thief :]

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/6841/sevtc8.jpg

benc - I'm afraid Astorax is right - I can't apply any patch that is not a Polish patch, and obviously there are no such patches available. And greetings Ukrainian friend Eye-wink I always feel a sympathy for Ukraine Eye-wink

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Re: Big problem

Soumis par Captain Kwok le Ven, 2008-06-20 18:06

I'd suggest it's a bad translation in the data files (and AI scripts) causing your issues. You might want to pass it along to !


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Re: Big problem

Soumis par Aquila le Ven, 2008-06-20 18:21

As far as I know, other players who have gought polish version do not have such problems - they are fully satisfied. So there is nothing wrong with polish version in general I believe.

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Re: Big problem

Soumis par Kronos le Ven, 2008-06-20 21:45

Delete the game completely from your system. The try re-installing from cd. sometimes the reg key gets messed up.

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Re: Big problem

Soumis par benc le Sam, 2008-06-21 06:23

Our localizator has it's own patches instead of US or european versions... Maybe your localizator has it own patches on it's home site...

And i suppose there was Balance mod for 1.25 right? Can the Kwok just sent it to him?

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Re: Big problem

Soumis par Aquila le Sam, 2008-06-21 09:43

Yes, I propably have to wait for polish patch to be released, but since game has been released nine days ago I think I'll wait for a while Eye-wink

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Re: Big problem

Soumis par benc le Sam, 2008-06-21 23:47

I downloaded trailer of Polish version... and what do i see? they have TB ground battles instead of US and RUS RT... Why did it was done so? This is something like a MM joke or the advertisement, that was not realized?

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Re: Big problem

Soumis par Fyron le Dim, 2008-06-22 01:51

Erm... assuming you meant the Polish trailer shows turn-based combat, that would appear to be a major flaw of the advertisement. Creating a whole new turn-based combat engine would require quite a bit of work.


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Re: Big problem

Soumis par benc le Dim, 2008-06-22 07:17

if it was shown... i suppose it is already made,isn't it? So what the problem to add the choosable TB\RT ground combat?

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Re: Big problem

Soumis par Fyron le Dim, 2008-06-22 13:16

It doesn't exist? A translation company probably doesn't have authorization to create huge amounts of new code (or any incentive to do so in the first place)?


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Re: Big problem

Soumis par Ender le Dim, 2008-06-22 14:10

You have got a good lesson on the subject: Never buy a localized version providing your English is good enough. The price of it is usually more or less the same so why ask for problems? And there are always problems: you have to wait for patches longer providing they are available at all, you will probably have problems with mods and other stuff created by the community... Personally, I would not buy a localized version even if it was half the price of the non-localized one. Fortunately, in case of the SE5 the choice is much easier as the US version is actually cheaper than the Polish one and you can easily order and receive it not leaving your home. I am sorry, Aquila, I know this answer is probably not helping you but, perhaps, there are others for whom it will be enough of a warning.

As for the TB ground combat: I have seen this trailer and there is no TB ground combat in it, it is just RT using a pause mode in the simulated tactical combat.

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Re: Big problem

Soumis par bouncebag le Dim, 2008-06-22 14:23

maybe for the AI youhave either not installed properly or your ai dificulty is not high or it is a Newtral empire.

others contact Malfador

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Re: Big problem

Soumis par Aquila le Dim, 2008-06-22 14:43

Well, I also prefer non-localized games, but if I have to choose from localized version in a shop close to my home and a non localized version which I would have to order online and then wait weeks to receive it from Germany or other country, then I'll choose localized. There's only one game I will never buy in Polish version - Empire at War. I would not stand Darth Vader or Imperial Commanders speaking Polish... And in shops it is available only in full Polish version. So I don't have this game, because I don't want to order it online.
But, it's only a game.

I wrote to both malfador and my publisher, Nicolasgames. I wonder what they'll say about this problem.

And besides it is Polish, it generally works well - other Polish players who bought this Polish version enjoy normal gameplay. It is something wrong only with my game.

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Re: Big problem

Soumis par benc le Dim, 2008-06-22 14:48

then you just had to get your money back or change the game disc in shop

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Re: Big problem

Soumis par benc le Dim, 2008-06-22 14:50

about ground combat: i see the ground divided on hexes instead of squares...In RT MM used squares

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Re: Big problem

Soumis par Aquila le Dim, 2008-06-22 15:30

I have a third option, though controversial. If noone could help me to make my legally bought game playable (and it it not playable now - flying across empty galaxy is not what I hoped to get when I bought full version), I'll consider illegal downloading of US version. I paid for my full version, so I don't think about this option as something illegal in this case.

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Re: Big problem

Soumis par benc le Dim, 2008-06-22 15:50

Just to feel guiltless for yourself)
You could did it days ago...)

the other way - advocate your rights as a legal buyer

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Re: Big problem

Soumis par Ender le Dim, 2008-06-22 17:05

benc wrote:
about ground combat: i see the ground divided on hexes instead of squares...In RT MM used squares

Hmm, you could be right, benc. It could be the TB mode as units seem to have movement points there, not just speed.

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Re: Big problem

Soumis par Aquila le Lun, 2008-06-23 14:02

Well, at last some good news. Nicolas Games is working at a Polish patch for SEV. I only wonder when will they release it...

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Re: Big problem

Soumis par benc le Lun, 2008-06-23 15:21

you mean the latest 1.74 patch?

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Re: Big problem

Soumis par benc le Lun, 2008-06-23 15:21

you mean the latest 1.74 patch?

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Re: Big problem

Soumis par Aquila le Lun, 2008-06-23 15:37

I don't know. They only said that they are currently working at a patch. That's everything I know at this moment.

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Re: Big problem

Soumis par benc le Mar, 2008-06-24 23:52

CD Keys do not have the number "0" in them. They only have the capital letter "O". So anyplace that you see a 0 use the letter O instead.

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Re: Big problem

Soumis par Lord Aries Greymon le Sam, 2008-06-28 13:36

Ender wrote:
benc wrote:
about ground combat: i see the ground divided on hexes instead of squares...In RT MM used squares

Hmm, you could be right, benc. It could be the TB mode as units seem to have movement points there, not just speed.

Look on the back of the US release box. it shows a still frame of ground combat, with a visible hex grid. I think it was just a change from an earlier build to the one we're familiar with.

As to your problems Aquila.
I am personally unaware of what could be causing such a problem, other than the allready mentioned.
Your install managed a self-inflicted borking (like heart failure) via:
A corruption of it's registry key during install, a corruption during a copy process of all the relevant AI-files, or simply a shoddy cd.
None of which are your fault, and the first two of which are, potentially simple to fix.

Use the un-install function to remove the game.
Re-install the game.

if that fails, then your best bet is to buck up and purchase an english-language version, as that will get the most direct help possible from the game creator, and the game modifying community, should something particularly foul occur.

And that's about it for the wisdom of this weak modder.
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Re: Big problem

Soumis par Aquila le Mar, 2008-07-01 15:26

Haha, this is ridiculous. Nicolas Games has otally screwed this polish version - it appears that everyone who bought it has the same problem as I have. I found a thread in polish forum about games, about our version of SEV and everyone is complaining about AI and other bugs.

Nicolas games has been flooded with e-mails. They have to release this patch now. However it could take them a long time to do this. But I think I'll wait for it.

Ehhhh... Eye-wink

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Re: Big problem

Soumis par benc le Mar, 2008-07-01 18:00

localization SUCKS ... learn English, as I do))))

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