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Some tips for newbies at PBW (facing other players)

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Soumis par Myrath le Lun, 2008-04-07 03:33 Space Empires V Multiplayer

I just thought I'd write down a few things that I've learned in my PBW games, which may benifit some of the newer players, and those who are just getting started with PBW.
I must note that I've mainly played with balance mod so far!.

- Migration is not a flavor treaty and is VITAL
Getting migration populations will get natural breathers of other atmospheres in your empire. Scrap your origional population and keep the breather. This will allow you to use every KT available at the world. Not the 'domed quantity'.

- No such thing as too many starbases
It all comes down on how can get the most ships in the front line with the biggest guns. It is NOT a luxury to have worlds with 50 production starbases near the frontline. Long supply lines can kill you. Getting them up and running in the front is important!

- Drones
Nice to have on the side. But don't build your defense around them.

- Fighters
Nice to have; But they quickly lose power when the game advances. A cruiser can take out a lot of fighters. A few cruisers set up for the task can kill zounds.

- Mines
Get minelayers and minesweepers early on in the game. Very early. They allow YOU to set the borders of your empire and allow YOU to build your defense. YOU want to be making the rules.

- Research
Get ahead. Stay ahead.

- Startup Research
I prefer to get Engines level 5 asap. They lower the costs of your colony ships and allow you to produce more ships faster. There may be a (LARGE) advantage here in using organic or Crystaline hulls.

- Do not underestimate
Arrogance comes before the fall. That nearly equally sized neighbour can have some strong weapons and strategies.

- Sensors & Scanners
Be SURE to launch sensor satelites around your worlds... especially at the front. Near the front be sure to include SCANNERS on those satelites. Try to get us much intel as you can on enemy ship designs. This allows you to counter their designs.

- Bluff
Remember... They can't look inside your empire if they aren't in there. A bluff can get you a long way and can just give you that little bit of time you need to get your defenses in order.

- Do not underestimate Intel!
You do NOT want to be caught with your pants down versus an intel assault. If someone attacks you early in the game with intel, your empire may get ravaged by plagues. This can cause severe damage in the beginning of the game and can still be damaging if you get deeper in. Resarch intel early on and try to keep with it.

- Intel more...
Offense is better than defense. You want the other person to defend against your assaults and be curing plagues. If he is workin on it, you can just sit back and watch the carnage. Putting yourself on defense if your power is about equal with your opponent is an absolute waste. Even on defense you'll get slaughtered. So.. Better to lay waste to the other one then to try to defend yourself and get layed to waste in the process

Lets see... i think those are the most important items I got to. But the top 3 is deffinitly:
- Get all the breathers (migration).
- You can NEVER have enough starbases near the front
- Make the rules. Or be ruled.

Lastly; I'd like to include some screenshots of management screens, which at least make it easier for me to run my empires.

Construction Window

Colony Windows

Planet Window (Filter with Colonizable & Empty)

Ship movement orders

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Re: Some tips for newbies at PBW (facing other players)

Soumis par Shrike le Lun, 2008-04-07 09:18

Excellent thread start, but you seem to have forgotten one of the most important points. Make allies! The more players you have in your game, the more this aspect will matter. You have to chose the right ones and make sure you have solidified those relationships before the carnage begins. Isolated players will get picked off the first, unless they're really ahead of everyone else in all important aspects.

Another point, but a tough one: be aware of the important game bugs. Not an easy one and I probably don't know half of the current ones, but relying on some technology or strategy only to find out it doesn't work as it should belatedly is usually very bad for your empire. Most people will still have to experience the 1.71 + BM mod 1.14a - as do I - so a lot of this is really to be discovered as you go. It will be interesting to see whether the turn start decloaking issue is really fixed and hopefully to see some weapon tech finally becoming useful (engine, weapon and shield generator targeting tech).

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Re: Some tips for newbies at PBW (facing other players)

Soumis par Vince278 le Lun, 2008-04-07 09:56

A good treaty is better than a mine field in setting your borders. Also, trade for those other colonization techs. Many people will go one for one. Smiling

Newbs are welcome in ASTOCKGAME. (I, and someothers, are PBW newbs) We need just one more to start. Smiling

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Re: Some tips for newbies at PBW (facing other players)

Soumis par Fyron le Lun, 2008-04-07 11:23

Plan to Wikify this once it gets developed?


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Re: Some tips for newbies at PBW (facing other players)

Soumis par Vince278 le Lun, 2008-04-07 14:44

Good idea. I feel this thread will generate alot of useful input. Smiling

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Re: Some tips for newbies at PBW (facing other players)

Soumis par Juju le Mar, 2008-04-08 02:41

Me too, and I allready have the first question too Smiling

Concerning the Planet List, how do you set the launch orders on repeat ?
( I play SP, but that shouldn't matter )

With the amount of troops a planet can launch per turn, the order gets executed before I can repeat,
and I can't turn on repeat before I make an order, or after its executed ?

I learned with ships, it helps when you set them to sentry first, .. but how do you set your planets on repeat orders ?

Gratz on the rest of your setup, lean, mean and informative .. and looks alot like mine allready does .. ( but i will copy the setup ideas i haven't included yet ^^ )

Remember : Pillage! then burn.
- Cpt. Kaff Tagon

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Re: Some tips for newbies at PBW (facing other players)

Soumis par Myrath le Mar, 2008-04-08 05:27

Juju wrote:
Me too, and I allready have the first question too Smiling

Concerning the Planet List, how do you set the launch orders on repeat ?
( I play SP, but that shouldn't matter )

With the amount of troops a planet can launch per turn, the order gets executed before I can repeat,
and I can't turn on repeat before I make an order, or after its executed ?

I learned with ships, it helps when you set them to sentry first, .. but how do you set your planets on repeat orders ?

Gratz on the rest of your setup, lean, mean and informative .. and looks alot like mine allready does .. ( but i will copy the setup ideas i haven't included yet ^^ )

Remember : Pillage! then burn.
- Cpt. Kaff Tagon

I usually use the shortcut key commands:
- Select the planet
CTRL + ] (Launch units)
P (Repeat Orders)

I'm not sure how to get the orders queued up in single player. But in multiplayer in simultaneous turns you can queue up the orders.

~Myrath

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Re: Some tips for newbies at PBW (facing other players)

Soumis par Myrath le Mar, 2008-04-08 05:28

You guys are right. Getting all colony techs is awesomely important too! I forgot to write that down Sticking out tongue
And ofcourse everybody needs good neighbours.

Wiki is a good plan!

~Myrath

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Re: Some tips for newbies at PBW (facing other players)

Soumis par TakAhLah le Mar, 2008-04-08 05:50

Great thread Myrath!

I will add that you should never trust your allies!...build defenses along the boarders with them just in case...you never know if the player you have an alliance with will drop out of the game and the new ruler might not be so friendly!

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Re: Some tips for newbies at PBW (facing other players)

Soumis par Juju le Mar, 2008-04-08 07:55

Thanks Myrath ..
I don't use the shortcuts, but the menu, maybe they work different.
I don't think the turn mode, or the single/multiplayer mode change the way the menu works

Remember : Pillage! then burn.
- Cpt. Kaff Tagon

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Re: Some tips for newbies at PBW (facing other players)

Soumis par Slimbo le Mar, 2008-04-08 17:01

Is there a 100 mine limit per sector in SEV as there was in 4?

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Everything that has transpired has done so according to my design...

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Re: Some tips for newbies at PBW (facing other players)

Soumis par Cerberus le Mer, 2008-04-16 00:42

there is a limit now, since 1.71. all units are limited to 100 i think.

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Re: Some tips for newbies at PBW (facing other players)

Soumis par Fyron le Mer, 2008-04-16 01:13

Yep, the bug that prevented limit enforcement was fixed.


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Re: Some tips for newbies at PBW (facing other players)

Soumis par Ender le Mer, 2008-04-16 05:41

In BM1.14a the limit for mines is 500, for satellites 200 and for fighters 1000

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