Chaos vs. Order War - New PBW Game

Sure, it simply means that the players will be expected to roleplay their in game "character". In that way the game is full of wonderful political intrigue and no players get their feelings hurt or feel picked on because the players are "roleplaying" their race and not conducting personal attacks on a fellow player.

Example: If you are playing a Xenophobic insect race then you should roleplay them as Xenophobes. This does not mean you cannot make treaties but the race should be very selective about the other races it chooses to trust and this should be apparent in the in game dialogue.

If you are playing a religious race then this too should be known in the dialogue and show the race to be unique in this fashion...maybe even more willing to ally with member races willing to convert. Etc.

Etc, etc. etc. These are always the most fun games...in my experience.

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The ship count could be low for some but it does force political dialogue and intrigue which is what a good role play game is about. It is very hard to win a game with only 200 ships at your disposal unless you are willing to work with other players.

I just finished a game where the galactic politics and roleplaying was what made it fun. Combine that with strategy and tactics and you have a real game. We had one race that jumped between political alliances a couple times during a war...talk about fun. One minute you are winning...then losing...then winning again. The power player was summarily destroyed by this alliance of the noobs. It is very nerve wrenching experience when the power player is going to eat your lunch unless EVERYONE works together...and then that one player keeps getting bought off with the latest greatest technology...jump, jump, jump...because they are playing a "greedy" race.

The race I was playing was a mechanoid temporal race that was stuck in a time loop searching for its own creator. It would not allow ANY race within its systems and was searching for the "One". When a player finally took the bait and said they were "One" my race quickly became their buddy and military sidekick. So long as the other race continued to play along One was loyal. But One (a collective mind) had a serious flaw. Its programming dictated that any organic that was not "One" should be cleansed from the galaxy.

Another player was a very Vulcan like race that worked on logic. IF you wanted their aid you had to present a logical argument.

This is the kind of stuff I am looking for in a good role playing game. The story, as well as the strategy, drives the action and fun.

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Only six more spots are open. Come and get'em.

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Four spots still open. You are welcome to join if they are still available.

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I believe mines do count as units. Choices are indeed paramount in this type of game. Good roleplaying of the political scene is a must for individual or team victories. You begin to see natural divisions begin to take place based on how folks decide to roleplay their race. Will you be a race that believes might makes right? Or a race that believes diplomacy solves everything. Or a race that tries to pigeon hole itself away from its galactic neighbors while it builds a doomsday weapon. Anything is possible. Just make sure you come into the game with a good character concept and stick with it. You do not necessarily need to write up a race description for others to see, just so long as YOU know the race you are playing. Some of the fun is when others are trying to figure out what exactly your race is all about. If you want to play an ancient race then maybe you should provide more details in your race descriptions since it is highly likely that the other races know something about your race (or maybe not...perhaps you are like the Vorlons or Shadows from B5). If your race is a young race then maybe no one has ever heard of you and everyone must learn what the race is all about. The choice is the players...just be prepared to role play.

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I really didn't realize how badly us "noobs" were going to lose until we started to acquire all the tech from our three way alliance. The power player stood little chance once all our efforts were directed his way. I guess you could say we ended the game in a 3-way victory of the underdogs. The final military push was incredibly successful with all the aliance members using cooperative intelligence strikes to cripple the few ships of the enemy and then amassing a combined fleet of nearly 600 ships to rip through their space.

The funny thing was all races agreed that stellar manipulation technology or WIDs (weapons of interstellar destruction) were the greatest threat and the race who was found guilty of building them must be eliminated before the threat became too severe. That one point of agreement solidified the alliance. A group of three races that would never have agreed on anything...two of the races who had been deeply ingrained in border disputes. And our two races who were uneasy at best with the specter of a galactic cleansing operation looming in the background.

Ahhh politics....the intrigue was fun. I am truly saddened that the game ended. It was my daily retreat after a long day of work. So now we must get another game moving along.

We still have 4 open slots going to the first takers. Come and get'em.

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One other thing. In a roleplaying game we allow for e-mail (galatic messaging) once you have made contact with another race so long as you stay in character. If you ever need to go out of character it is proper to let folks know by saying "out of character" or "OOC". I have added a couple of the funniest galactic communications from the last game to give you a feel for the dialogue...
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Message from Blue Alliance to "D" Empire:

Hello Omnicron Theorem,

Conventional message systems have proven to be too slow, so we are attempting to initiate contact via this improved messaging device.

We wish to know what grievance you have against us that would push you to the point of violence and whether there is any way to convince you to cease your apparent invasion of our Northern border system.

-Grand Head Blue
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Grand Head Blue,

The grievances are many. The establishment of false borders through Blue deception. The testing of all our borders by Blue ships, even those borders deep inside Atlantica. Upon communications with Atlantica, it became apparent that Blue was misusing its relationship with Atlantica. Atlantica and we have resolved our conflict. Then as we were about to seek a peaceful resolution with Blue, Blue decided to act against established logic suggesting Blue as an entity incapable of acting on logic. Our communications with One further demonstrate the illogic of Blue. We began testing our hypothesis and determined at the 99.999% confidence level that Blue is illogical. We initiated root cause analysis. We refined our testing by examining the people of Blue. We determined that the people of Blue are logical when not under the influence of the Grand Head. Therefore the Grand Head Blue is the source of the illogic. We can not abide illogic and therefore Grand Head Blue must cease to exist or we must.

Therfore we come for the source of illogic.

Omnicron Theorem
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I have to tell you. When I first read the above communication that was relayed to me I simply busted out laughing. The humor is great on the part of Omnicron Theorem.

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Three spots left.

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Only TWO spots left...first come, first serve.

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One, I say One spot, and One spot only, left.

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Ulrich,

Your OAS Empire file never got uploaded to PBW. I am still waiting on it. So you may have to recreate it and upload it again if you do not have a local copy.

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All spots are now filled. I will let you know should a player be bumped and we need to get a new one prior to the game start.

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Are you looking in the "SavedEmpires" folder?

If not, did you set up another directory for your file saves?

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If you remember the name of the empire file you could have your system scan for the file. Under windows XP, just bring up the start menu and in the lower right corner of it click on search.

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I don't know what to tell you. I am not that familiar with all the nuances of the SEV program to know where, how, or why the file is not in the SavedEmpires folder. I would suggest you simply remake the empire file. Pretty easy to do...just a pain in the butt.

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10 seems to be a good amount for a smooth game. I have a couple unresponsive players. So if I cannot get them to ready up I will have a couple more open spots.

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I have had to kick two unresponsive players from the roster, sorry Ulrich and Zanik, and we can now recruit two more players. If you are interested in joining up please do so ASAP so we can get your empires loaded and get this game underway.

Ulrich and Zanik, if you read this and can get your empires in order then reapply. Otherwise we will fill the vacant spots with first come, first serve.

Thanks!

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None of the game settings were changed, however, you still need to create a new empire file and reload it. Your empire file will not currently load because you have spent too many research points creating it. I sent you an e-mail with details. Thanks!

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I am still looking for two players to join up. If you get into the game prior to the existing players resolving some empire discrepancies then you won't miss out. As soon as the current players files are all working the game will start...so hurry up and join if you want in.

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I believe it is because as soon as the game starts it adds your "free" colonizing tech...which would put your empire over the research point limit.

To All: This game still has seats for TWO more players. First come, first serve.

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Only ONE seat left...then the bus departs.

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The game has started, have fun. I have included the game's back story below.

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Just for all you players as you set about in your role playing efforts this is the general back story for the game:

There are powers in the Universe as old as time and born with the first stars. The number of these powers is unknown but ancient myths set it at nine. These powers are known to legend as the First Ones. The First Ones disagreed on the nature of the Universe and how life should evolve. Some chose Chaos and believed that for life to evolve to its highest state it must suffer through turmoil, wars, pain, and death. This “chaos” forces life to evolve, or to become extinct. Some chose “order” and believed that for life to evolve to its highest state it must be provided with guidance, nurturing, and love. In this way life evolves based on strict adherence to laws provided to them, via nature or otherwise, and those who choose not to follow these laws are doomed to extinction or subjugation as a lower life form.

If you are playing an Ancient race, you know that the First Ones have long since evolved past this material plain but still act upon it from other dimensions of existence. They use the Young races to force this ideological war…generally without the Young races direct knowledge or consent. As an Ancient race you may have survived one, or many, such wars which cycle through the Universe about once every 10,000 years. Through each war your race has survived via their own means…but at the loss of much of their knowledge and society. Your race/Empire has developed fundamental prejudices concerning the First Ones. Whether those prejudices are hateful for being used as a toy in their ideological dispute, or sincere admiration and support for one side or the other is up to you as a player.

The Young races know not of this cycle of war, or the First Ones, except in legends, myths, old artifacts, and religious texts. Each Young race may call the forces of Chaos & Order something unique: dark vs light, evil vs good, Devil vs God, or an entire host of other descriptions. The fact remains that many among your Young race view these stories as nonsense for believers, simply old fairy tales, or are being guided by those beliefs as a foundation for their society/religion. In some corners of the Universe people who speak of these “myths” are openly condemned, in other areas they are revered as inspired leaders or prophets. How you play your race/Empire concept in this regard, and which side you support is up to you as a player.

Which side will your race/Empire support in this new age…if any?

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Yea, my game did the same. I have no idea why the game is being fussy about that one flag set. To fix the problem, simply copy the shadows_flag_set.bmp from the Stock SEV Empires Shadows folder and then paste the copy into the Balance Mod Empires Shadows folder. That should resolve the problem. It did for me. Checking the game forums it appears everyone had this error and had to do the same.

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No IP address. The game is hosted on PBW and is currently full.

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