Not producing intelligence points

No, I waited several (= about 10) turns before I even noticed that there are not Int. points.

Wenla

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Before you can develop a strategy, you have to have a vision.

Ok, I'll try that. Any how I started to wonder if there is something wrong with my race, because when I started a game, there was a space port in my home planet. Because I didn't needed it, I removed it. Like I told, all other 'things' were moved for empire, except int. points. It would be some how not logical at all if space port is needed jus for int. points...

Wenla

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Before you can develop a strategy, you have to have a vision.

Sigh....

Capt. K, you was right (of course...). When I built a space port, it 'released' int. points for empire. Any how like I told earlier, other points/resources are gathered. Next I have to think if I build space ports like 'normal' (not a good thing) or do I leave intelligense just for my enemies (not a good thing either)... Suggestions/opinions anybody?

Two questins come to my mind, just in case that somebody knows answers:
1) is this a bug? If yes, is it known allready?
2) there are four more races which doesn't need space port (or so it is told). Have anybody noticed if they have similar behavior with intelligence points?

Wenla

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Before you can develop a strategy, you have to have a vision.

I started a new game, as a same race. After geting some planets, I played a while with/without space port(s), and I have to confess, that I'm not sure any more if even other points/resources was transfered for empire without space port(s). I can't confirm this with my old game any more, but if somebody else is checking this behaviour with "non space port needen" races to confirm this as a bug, this could be checked at same time.

Wenla

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Before you can develop a strategy, you have to have a vision.

I see that I forgot one more importatnt (?) fact, that is that I started a quick game where only thing I can select is my race. So, natural Merchant is a coice of game/race. When I have started a game where I can select different options, Natural Merchant has worked as excepted.

In my new (quick start) game with same race I have built Spaceports (which I soudn't need), all/all kinds of points are delivered for empire.

Wenla

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Before you can develop a strategy, you have to have a vision.

Sorry, but with this advice I couldn't find anything (may be it's my English). I checked Empires => Our Empire Report but couldn't find anything recarding this (should I if it is missing? meaning that if it miss, is it an evidence?). If I'm in wrong place to check, please be more precice.

Wenla

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Before you can develop a strategy, you have to have a vision.

Okei, I checked

Empires -> Our Empire Report -> Empire Report -> Abilities -> Quadrant Wide

and

Empire -> Our Empire Report -> Race Report -> Racial Abilities -> Quadrant Wide

No mention of Natural Merchant in either reports. I must be blind or stupid or both or I am in wrong report (also may be that this really is a bug...)

Wenla

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Before you can develop a strategy, you have to have a vision.

If so, what is the point of this ability? Meaning that if you start with quick start, you don't get it what ever race you are/pick and if you start new game - options, you can select natural merchant for every race you want...

Wenla

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Before you can develop a strategy, you have to have a vision.

One more question got to in to my mind: I have assumed that Intelligence report tells how many points got transferred for the empire use, and planet reports how many points planet produces.

Right or wrong?

Wenla

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Before you can develop a strategy, you have to have a vision.

One more test = one more question/peculariaty...

Only one Intelligence center. Same race.

- with Spaceport it produces 580 intelligence points and deliveres those for empire
- without Spaceport it produces 145 intelligence points and deliveres those for empire

Simple question: why?

"One idiot can ask more questions than ten wise can answer" alias Wenla

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Before you can develop a strategy, you have to have a vision.

I see, OK.

But, but... When you select Quick start game asks only the race you like to play. You cann't influence any other options ( or if you can, please tell me how, because I don't know). And again, if you cannot influence for selecting Natural Merchant, option is pointless as a race ability.

Yes, I know that. Issue is with racial ability with quick start.

Wenla

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Before you can develop a strategy, you have to have a vision.

Ahaa, so I'm the only one who plays gaming option which is not supposed to be playable, with racial abilities which don't work

Wenla

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Before you can develop a strategy, you have to have a vision.

OK Blubel, now I understand what you mean.

So, as you see it, this is not a bug but a feature... You can use Natural Mercant race ability only when:
1) you play 'normal' game (with selectable options)
2) you have 'predefined' (= earlier saved) race
3) you give enough starting points for this race so it can use all race abilities defined by the game

If this is true, two more questions come to my mind:
1) how many points is needed for each race (if it is different for different races) to get it use all 'game-defined' race abilities
2) if you don't give enough starting points for ALL race abilities, which is the method game uses when it decides what abilities is used and what not (= order like "If there is enough points, use ability X and if there is still points left, use ability Z etc etc)

Adv. thanks

Wenla

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Before you can develop a strategy, you have to have a vision.

Thanks for the information. I don't wan't to change anything, I just like to understand how this game (and others also) work.

Wenla

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Before you can develop a strategy, you have to have a vision.