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Shield Imploder

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Soumis par Astorax le Lun, 2008-01-28 09:12 Space Empires V General

Hey guys, could someone that has used this weapon before enlighten me as to what, exactly, it does? I've heard it said it "destroys shields" but just looking at the damage it does it seems you would have to have very few shields for it to destroy them. The damage, even with mounts, is not too great and if thats all it does (damage shields by that amount) then any other normal weapon would be better since its likely to be higher damage and wouldn't just be against shields.

Anyone know for sure?

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Re: Shield Imploder

Soumis par Vince278 le Lun, 2008-01-28 16:59

As you say, normal weapons are better. This game is full of worthless (at least to me) junk. Smiling

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Re: Shield Imploder

Soumis par Lastdreamer le Lun, 2008-01-28 18:17

All this "worthless junk" add flavour to the game... yeah, but sometimes some tech ARE really junk!!! But we can mod almost all... he he he

PS: Astorax, don't open two post in two different sub-forum... one here and one in SEV FAQ... see there for a reply that explain how Shield Imploder should work...

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Re: Shield Imploder

Soumis par Astorax le Mar, 2008-01-29 10:02

Vince, it turns out the Shield Imploder is not only not worthless, its awesome! It negates all shields on contact (atleast normal shields so far) making it a perfect complimentary weapon for a Crystalline race!

Lastdreamer, if you had read the other post in SEV Mods (not FAQs btw) you would have seen I apologized for posting that in the wrong forum. I'll leave that like that.

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Re: Shield Imploder

Soumis par Vince278 le Mar, 2008-01-29 20:38

I prefer the direct damage approach. "Flavour" only serves to make you taste better when your enemies crush you. I've learned to prefer armour over shields lately. Pound for pound, they seem to provide more protection (especially for organics and crystals). Smiling

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Re: Shield Imploder

Soumis par Astorax le Mar, 2008-01-29 22:02

lol, just picture it though, Vince - first I shoot my Shield Imploders at you taking out any shields you might have, right after that my High Energy Magnifiers whack into you for big damage and then my Shard Cannons skip your armor altogether (and not having to worry about shields) and fry all your internals.

Whack!

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Re: Shield Imploder

Soumis par Lastdreamer le Mer, 2008-01-30 07:39

Astorax wrote:
Lastdreamer, if you had read the other post in SEV Mods (not FAQs btw) you would have seen I apologized for posting that in the wrong forum. I'll leave that like that.
I've read your reply too late... sorry!!!

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Re: Shield Imploder

Soumis par Vince278 le Mer, 2008-01-30 14:54

Astorax wrote:
lol, just picture it though, Vince - first I shoot my Shield Imploders at you taking out any shields you might have, right after that my High Energy Magnifiers whack into you for big damage and then my Shard Cannons skip your armor altogether (and not having to worry about shields) and fry all your internals.

Whack!

Ow. The DNs in my current game have lots of armour but no shields. I'd laugh at the Shield Imploder, cringe at the Shard Cannons, then return fire with a salvo or two from my 16 massive Lightning guns with 1k damage each before dying.

In this case you'd be more efficent using entirely all HEM's or SC's depending on which gives you the highest total per salvo at range. Smiling

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Re: Shield Imploder

Soumis par Lastdreamer le Mer, 2008-01-30 17:24

Really it's better to use ONE shield Imploder and then full load of Crystalline Torpedoes or Shard Cannon... so this type of ship could easily fight with ALL type of ship, not only ship w/out shield. Add to this a good level of Shield and Crystalline Armor and before you will damage the internal dmg, this type of shild has heavily damaged yours.

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Re: Shield Imploder

Soumis par Vince278 le Mer, 2008-01-30 20:04

I guess a shield imploder would be more efficent if you use it against a race with shields and it does more damage to the shields than a direct damage weapon of the same size and range. Another question: Does it fire first? Its effects become moot if it's firing in a volley together everything else or after them. Smiling

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Re: Shield Imploder

Soumis par Astorax le Jeu, 2008-01-31 00:16

Vince, whichever weapon you put on your ship first when you designed it will be the first weapon fired. Thats for strategic of course, in tactical you can control it obviously. The only problem I've had with it so far is that the globes the Imploder fires are kinda slow so my HEM's end up hitting first (they are insta hit beams) even though they techically fire second in line, right before the shard cannons.

As for "doing more damage than a direct damage weapon", umm yep, it sure does considering it instantly negates ALL your shields no matter how many you have. I've not tried it against Phased Shields as yet but I really need to test that too. I'm just wondering what the deal is with the damage it shows it does because thats not what it does to shields at all. Plus, theres 3 levels of Shield Implosion you can train but all it seems to do is raise that imaginary damage it does up some.

All in all, being a Crystalline race ..I like it. Heh.

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Re: Shield Imploder

Soumis par Lastdreamer le Jeu, 2008-01-31 04:06

Crystalline Race are great, specially in Star Heavy system (i'm using FQM)...

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Re: Shield Imploder

Soumis par Vince278 le Jeu, 2008-01-31 20:58

I'm still an Organic fan. I also favored phased energy weapons until I noted the AI seemed to prefer armour over shields for the most part. Smiling

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Re: Shield Imploder

Soumis par Setekh le Ven, 2008-02-01 13:57

Crystalline tech is cool.
I do like to mess around with the psychic tech too sometimes, mental singularity generators are overkill.
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Re: Shield Imploder

Soumis par pyroman le Mer, 2008-02-13 02:15

the trick is finding the tech, unless in some of the mods you can select what ruins discovery you want somehow its like shooting fish in a barrel...and I think its really funny cause they have shield imploder and the massive shield depleter that destroys the shields( (i think...) but its massive...the only thing you might use it for is if you know you cant kill an enemy so you hit him with it...but you need a large ship to use the weapon so...I just think its useless compared to the shield imploder

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Re: Shield Imploder

Soumis par Vince278 le Mer, 2008-02-13 12:58

Most of the massive unique techs I find go unused. Other techs are only good depending on what your opposition uses. I think of the techs as a massive version of rock/paper/scissors, only instead of those three objects there are hundreds that work better against some but not others. Smiling

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