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Riots tearing apart my empire - how to stop?

Soumis par heliode le Lun, 2007-11-05 07:55 Space Empires V General

Hey fellow emperors,

I was being an evil bastard, quickly reaching a much higher tech level than my AI opponents and using my knowledge to isolate their systems from the rest of the galaxy by closing their warp points, hehehe.
When I did this to a couple of enemy systems I proceeded to close all warp points connecting my enemies to my systems. Relatively quickly I was able to separate my star systems from the rest. That way I could work on building toward ring- and sphereworlds without being disturbed by enemy intelligence and attacks. However...
This is when the fun ended for me. Without apparent reason, one after another my planets started rioting! All of them used to be jubilant but quickly happiness degraded to the point where basically all my planets were rioting. This led to a great fall in resources, which led to the abandonment and destruction of my fleet. I have no idea why this happened but I'm not about to give up a 250+ turn game. I have a savegame from just before all this started happening. Is there something I can do to turn the tide? I'm even willing to edit data files, I just want to get on with my game Sad

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

‹ corrupt saves with 1.58 and BM 1.11 Alliances ›
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Re: Riots tearing apart my empire - how to stop?

Soumis par Alpedar le Lun, 2007-11-05 08:23

Did you have treaties before you cut yourself off? Maybe not heaving treatis causes unhapiness.

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Re: Riots tearing apart my empire - how to stop?

Soumis par heliode le Lun, 2007-11-05 08:32

Hey! Thanks for your quick reply!
Yes I did have a few treaties, mostly war though. My government type is a Tyranny (hey, I'm in charge, wanted to be honest with them..) so they should have some tolerance for war. I lost most of my treaties when I cleared what was left of other races from 'my' stars though Eye-wink

One of my planets recently rebelled against me (intelligence action by one of my enemies) and ground troops didn't seem to be working, so I blasted the planet away... (was a small one anyway) Think they might be antsy about that? And if so, what do I do about it now? I'd hate to have to start a new game, there's hours of 'work' in this game Sad

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Re: Riots tearing apart my empire - how to stop?

Soumis par Captain Kwok le Lun, 2007-11-05 09:01

Make sure you have lots of troops on your planets. The Tyranny government type has a happiness penalty that drops happiness quickly unless you're winning wars or have lots of ships or troops in your systems.


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Re: Riots tearing apart my empire - how to stop?

Soumis par Cetus le Lun, 2007-11-05 09:03

Happiness.txt

Take a look at the Happiness.txt file in the data folder or in your mod. There you can see which events changes the mood of your people. Compare it with your recent events and you should figure out what is causing your people's headache.

If you want to mod something change the point troops on planet.
Our Troops on Planet := -0.2 -> -15.0

Arround 20 cheap troops stationed at every planet, will keep all your rebells calm Eye-wink)

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Re: Riots tearing apart my empire - how to stop?

Soumis par althumbs le Lun, 2007-11-05 10:07

I had a similar problem when I lost all treaties (because of my mega evil status) the AI players started declaring war against me for one turn then making peace with me the next. This caused the war happiness penalty to repeatedly being applied turn after turn. The only fix was to edit the happiness txt war penalty to 0.

Remember! If someone is trying to kill you, you kill them first!

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Re: Riots tearing apart my empire - how to stop?

Soumis par Gideon le Lun, 2007-11-05 11:15

And on a completely different subject:

Althumbs: Both your pic and your quote rock.

"Only by being constantly at war with evil in all things, including yourself, can you truely know peace."
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Re: Riots tearing apart my empire - how to stop?

Soumis par Brad le Lun, 2007-11-05 18:12

Build an Urban Pacification Centre in every system.

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Re: Riots tearing apart my empire - how to stop?

Soumis par Reiver le Lun, 2007-11-05 20:36

Rather than stating the solution, I think I'll point out what is likely the problem - tyrannys have a happy penalty, and the most common way it's offset is by winning wars, as previously noted.

You then cut off your systems from everyone else, and stopped winning wars. The happiness penalty would start to chip away pretty quickly, there... At least, that'd be my first guess.

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Re: Riots tearing apart my empire - how to stop?

Soumis par Ashbery76 le Lun, 2007-11-05 20:46

They got bored dude.

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Re: Riots tearing apart my empire - how to stop?

Soumis par Alpedar le Mar, 2007-11-06 13:19

Is it per turn change penalty, or constant modifier? Becose if its per turn change, then i will weight it much more in my future games. (And same for those -+500 points un/happynes traits).

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Re: Riots tearing apart my empire - how to stop?

Soumis par heliode le Mar, 2007-11-06 16:11

Thanks for all your tips! I edited the datafile to save my current game and now I'm back to normal with a bunch of troops on all the planets. My first ringworld has just been build and now I'm rearranging all the warp points for efficiency while I work toward Sphere worlds Laughing out loud those annoying AI's won't know what hit 'em when I start my invasion hehehe!

Obviously this is off-topic, but how does the AI respond to ring- and sphereworlds? Do they try to invade them? Do they bomb them? Do they build them themselves if they're advanced enough?

Thanks again!

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Re: Riots tearing apart my empire - how to stop?

Soumis par Alpedar le Mar, 2007-11-06 20:06

Imo they only send colony ship Eye-wink

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