SE:V v1.57 History

Those are all awesome. Specially #7.

Thank you again Captain Kwok for keeping us informed, there's a few interesting things getting added lately, as in multiple space yards. Does that mean most of the bugs have been eliminated?

I keep seeing all these history posts... when is the update coming? And is there a map editor coming when it does? If I missed stuff on this, been out of the loop for a bit.

Probably public patch on monday if no new, serious issues crop up.

I think it is about time - keeping us waiting for 3 month... too long

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13 beta updates since the last live update ... wow. Just ... wow.

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Some very nice UI improvements for the fleet window. I know a lot of people have been asking for several of these changes for many moons.

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Oh yeah, number 7 is freakin' wonderful...

Javaslinger

#3 and #4 are good, i hope i understood it correctly

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I like #15, that can open up a few possibilites!

Your lord and master (below Foamy) LordHavoc

Very nice.
I like the looks of 7, 9-15 also look good.
Wasn't 15 already done in a previous version of change log/history?

16, so, no more putting multiple MCs on ships/bases?
Bummer, one of my defense base designs is made to survive a lot of punishment and had several 'backup' MCs in place, just to be on the safe side in case one got knocked out.

Am I the only one happy to see #s 11-14?

#7's sweet too.

7 and 17 are great.

From what I've read overall, I feel this is going to be the best patch we've had. Several long awaited interface improvements, countless bugs fixed, colony memory and loads of modder functions too. It's going to be one giant leap for Space Empires!

what's the chance of getting the AI scripting functions Open/close warp point functional in next patch? Aaron hasn't replied on that specific one yet.

Whats the chance MM would release a game engine modder so we modders can tweak the game engine?

Super Duper !

Groovy Baby Yeah!

Do you mean a galaxy with no warp points? That would be really cool! If the AI can create their own warp points, of course...

I've been playing SEIV for some time but with this patch, I will definetely move to SEV. Will the Balance and Battlestar Galactic mods be compatible with the new patch?

I know Kwok has said that balance a new version of balance mod will be realesed very soon after. Maybe even the same day.
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It has to be said, thanks to Malfador for the updates and to Kwok for keeping us all on the down-lo but still I have major concerns.

Where are the updates related to the Alliance engine? Why are they not taking priority? There has been at least 1 link fully detailing the many problems faced with attempting to create Alliances within the game yet still they have not been approached in any patches. I'm starting to wonder, are they going to be fixed at all? Why have they not been given priority over less impinging aspects of the game?

It seems slightly odd that people can get so excited over comparitively minor fixes when such a great flaw still marrs the potential playability of SE-V. I'm not trying to be blindly critical by any means, I'm glad Malfador is still working on the game, I just don't see how the Alliance system can be continually overlooked in every single patch update that I see.

Version 1.55 had a lot of alliance-related stuff in it... not sure if it's exactly what you're looking for but here you go:
http://wiki.spaceempires.net/index.php/Version_History_%28SEV%29#Version_1.55

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Maybe Aaron feels the same way I do... Alliance bugs are low priority.

These patches have all addressed significant bugs that are present whether or not you are playing with alliances. The interface improvements have improved things whether or not you play with alliances. The modding improvements improved modding whether or not you play with alliances.

And they are all small steps toward improving the games as a whole. Improving the AI. Enabling more diverse possibilities. Perhaps even they are small steps toward improving the function of the Alliance engine.

Let us not forget, that a very recent beta patch did indeed address issues relating to the Alliance engine. Maybe they even fixed it.

Try the patch when it comes out, then resume your endless complaints.

javaslinger

I am sure that to many people alliances is a big deal. I always end up playing the me against the entire universe campaign. So I couldn't tell you if they work or not.

Groovy Baby Yeah!

Endless complaints? I don't think its unfair to suggest that the Alliance system, one of the major selling points of the game certainly as far as I'm concerned, should be a major fix priority especially considering that it's completely unusable at the moment. I accept that it has been modified in the updates and your probably right, I should wait and see how it works out after the patch is released, but the bottom line is that the Alliance system should be a high priority; it can and should be a massive feature in the game.

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again tho kwok is right, there have been quite a few updates on the alliances, maybe it'll be sorted this time

I play single player mostly, alliances are hardly an issue for me. To me, it's just a nice extra but not vital at all to enjoying the game itself. I'd much rather see changes such as what's been done lately than alliances getting fixed. It's more fun to have an AI that can actually fight back rather than an AI that I can make peace with. The change to allow all colonies to repair is a major bonus in my eyes as well, as is stuff like being able to change windowed resolution (A VERY nice thing to me).

Alliances will be fixed, no doubt. But I just think it's the view of a majority of players that it isn't a high priority right now. I don't play the game to make peace, I play the game to wage war.

Another Bravo for #7 and 17.

The one thing missing is having the Experience points total included on the Fleet Transfer screen.

Btw. when new functions are added, is default AI modified to use them? Or they will be used only in good mods?

MM Thank you for the patch!
And Captain thank you for the numerous reports.

It looks like most of the stuff have been fixed, except the stock AI.
Now we really need to get down to the game and see the results of the patches!

I eat my words, sir! Quite right, I was under the impression there had only been a couple of minor Alliance fixes since the last patch but I stand corrected; looking again I can see there are some major fixes in 1.55 in particular. Apologies all round.

As you said, the problem was that the AI wasn't treating Alliances as entities but if that's been fixed, the system should be working just fine now. Time to join the 'cant wait for the new patch' brigade.

Fu... months it has been since I last visited this forum (various other forums, games, RL projects, etc etc took my time). I will skip all the "ZOMGAWESOMEEEEEEEEEEEe" reactions (oh and #17 here is UBERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR alongside #7) to all the Big Changes that have happened in my absence and ask:

How will multiple space yard facilities/components work out for mods that choose to allow them? As in, how will their construction queues work? "Builder Ship 0013 Yard #1,2,3" or will the space yards work in tandem (one queue, much bigger construction rate)?

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Imagine building a HUGE orbital contruction yard... It'd crank out larger ships faster... Sounds super cool...

Is possible to build a SuperShipYard Starbase like the Space Station Hephaestus in Manticore (Honor Harrington novels) ?

Cool !!!

It won't be possible in the stock game, but you can make a little mod to allow multiple SYs per vehicle (or planet).

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Yes, i know, but the possibility let make some interesting baseyards that can build heavy ships real fast......
If one mod that, can change the time the counter-offensive takes....

#18: I wonder if that'll fix some of the performance issues under Vista?

I can hope at least!

So there is a seperate way to have 1 per planet and upt to how many per vehicle? 5?

Thanks Kwok; it somehow helps knowing exactly what the problem is, regardless of not being able to do any more about it now than I could before. Closure, perhaps?

Also lets me rant with specifics rather than generalities in my weekly nVidia bug report.

And in many other games as well, even under win xp. That option has been giving me too much grief!

A handy option I noticed is that in the SE5 System Display options, it's possible to disable the sector coordinate information (the constantly updating tip in the top right of the system display giving the location of your mouse pointer at all times).

Turning this off improves the responsiveness of the mouse while the main system display is up, and you are still able to find the coordinates of sectors from the Sector Report, should you need it.