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Too Funny

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Soumis par Scottmm78 le Mar, 2007-02-13 15:09 Space Empires V General

using IRM .8c and have a Ice world with a temp of 297-C (566.6-F) thats some warm Ice

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Re: Too Funny > ice, Ice baby!

Soumis par Badger le Mar, 2007-02-13 15:35

is that an irm thing, or does it happen in stock?

uhhhh... its ice of something ,... other tahn water that uhhh....

You're right that's funny.
You're going to have me checking all my ice planets now.

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Re: Too Funny

Soumis par evilginger le Mar, 2007-02-13 15:50

Unless its Kelvin in which case its more feasable but I will have to start looking more myself

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Re: Too Funny

Soumis par Ynglaur le Mar, 2007-02-13 15:53

What's the gravity on the world? You might be able to get solid water (or methane, or whatever) at high enough pressures.

Any physics majors in the house?

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Re: Too Funny

Soumis par scaseman le Mar, 2007-02-13 15:58

I think you need a chemist boyles law and all that.

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Re: Too Funny

Soumis par pikcachu20 le Mar, 2007-02-13 16:09

ROFL Laughing out loud

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Re: Too Funny > ice, Ice baby!

Soumis par Scottmm78 le Mar, 2007-02-13 16:28

Badger wrote:
is that an irm thing, or does it happen in stock?

uhhhh... its ice of something ,... other tahn water that uhhh....

You're right that's funny.
You're going to have me checking all my ice planets now.

no idea about stock i just noticed it its a would extreamly close to the sun 2 hexs out

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Re: Too Funny

Soumis par thedude le Mar, 2007-02-13 16:28

Its probably a feature of that "fyron" mod the IRM guy included?

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Re: Too Funny

Soumis par Scottmm78 le Mar, 2007-02-13 16:32

Ynglaur wrote:
What's the gravity on the world? You might be able to get solid water (or methane, or whatever) at high enough pressures.

Any physics majors in the house?

Small no atmosphere gravity was .7 rad was 455 mr/hour

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Re: Too Funny

Soumis par pkoko le Mar, 2007-02-13 17:50

the kind of planet ca never exist in our universe.

any liquid's melting point (temperature between solid/ liquid) is fairly constant even in severe increase of pressure. ICE at 100 atm may be has melting temp of at most 5 C.

see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melting_point

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Re: Too Funny

Soumis par Antera le Mar, 2007-02-13 18:20

I've seen planets like that in the stock game, though recent patches may have changed that. The temperature algorithm is depended only on distance and a random factor. So even if it is an ice planet, if it was seeded at a close enough location to the sun it'll get a very high temperature. Then again, its not like we know what kind of ice it is. Maybe its some funky slurry mixture with super high melting point.

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Re: Too Funny

Soumis par Rilo57 le Mar, 2007-02-13 18:21

does ice always refer to frozen h20? I think it does.

No, now that I think about it there is dry ice...

but still this would have to be something really wierd, maybe ice in an energy field?

I seem to remember learning something about ice, that it actually melts with an increase in pressure. This is why ice skates work.

SEV, more than a feeling.

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Re: Too Funny

Soumis par Antera le Mar, 2007-02-13 18:31

Yes, pure ice can melt with increasing pressure. But that's an exception in nature. It happens because the molecular structure of ice versus water is such that the same amount of ice takes up more volume than water. So when you pressurize it, it wants to go back to being water. But most substances have the opposite trend. So if it was a mixture of water and something else it could go the other way. But I digress.

Actually, this planet could exist if only one side of it is really hot. If the heat is radiated off, the core can potentially remain below freezing. But then again, that assumes the planet has no internal magma so it could not have been formed with the current sun it orbits. Anyways, after playing this game for a while, I'm beginning to relax my view on what physics is in SE V.

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Define Ice: Solid state of matter

Soumis par Unole le Mer, 2007-02-14 09:15

Matter exists in one of 4 states. Solid, Liquid, Gas and Plasma. Everyone has been talking about solid H2O but other matter may still be solid even at high temperatures. Rock is just solid magma with a very high melting point. Using this example, Mercury is an ice rock planet very close to its sun. Smiling Combinations of chemicals can alter the freezing/melting point of the individual chemicals. Adding ethylene glycol to water alters the freezing and boiling temperatures of plain water. Elemental sulfur at room temperature is a solid while sulfuric acid is a liquid. These are everyday examples of what "Antera" was saying. Just because what we think of as ice is solid H20 doesn't mean that another species can't think of something with a much higher melting point as "ice." Quit thinking the world revolves around you.

It revolves around me. Barf!

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Re: Too Funny

Soumis par pikcachu20 le Mer, 2007-02-14 11:37

Just keep swimming, just keep swimming, what do we do we swim swim swim...

Hu Hu Hu Huuuu I love to Sswim.....

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Re: Too Funny

Soumis par Reiver le Dim, 2007-11-25 08:16

I personally think it's admirable that they tried to put in an alograthm to work out temperature based on distance from the sun.

The fact that it's a game balance issue that ice planets need to be as evenly spread as rock and gas, and that game balance takes precedence over flavor, just results in a wee catch. Eye-wink

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