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Crashes In Steam Version

Soumis par JeffGeorge le Dim, 2007-01-21 22:32 Space Empires V General

1) Selecting a ground unit in Ground Combat simulator and trying to change the view.

2) Creating a custom System layout.

These cause Access Violations, requiring you to right click on SEV in your task bar and close it. So far I've lost a lot of in-turn work when these things have happened and had to reload a saved game without all the designs I had upgraded that turn, etc. Very frustrating. I'm almost afraid of trying things in the game without saving every minute out of paranoia now.

‹ Additional movement racial pick in Balance Mod. TDirect3dxfile.start - can't find xfile.. oh and hello ›
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Not for those reasons but YES

Soumis par Badger le Dim, 2007-01-21 22:38

[i am running the steam version and crash frequently.

I have determined that running offline helps.

in my experience it is usually error access - memory, etc -
and generally related to units - loading, launching, recovering

the end of turn processing is when i have panic and cross my fingers the most.

b]Anyone who wants power; by definition, cannot be trusted with it...[/b]

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What do you mean when you

Soumis par JeffGeorge le Dim, 2007-01-21 23:11

What do you mean when you say 'running offline'? And have you seen a marked decrease in crashes by doing that?

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Run steam with internet disabled

Soumis par Thy Reaper le Lun, 2007-01-22 00:21

To use offline mode launch steam with your internet connection disabled. There may be a way to tell steam to start in this mode without doing this, but I'm tired and can't remember how.

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That's Nuts

Soumis par JeffGeorge le Lun, 2007-01-22 12:40

I don't think I want to disable my cable Internet connection to do this, as I usually resort to the Internet while playing to try to figure out what I'm going.

And to post about crashes.

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And that, my friends, is why

Soumis par Riptokus le Lun, 2007-01-22 14:33

And that, my friends, is why I hate steam and will have nothing to do with it. If SE:V was Steam Only, I wouldnt be playing SE:V. STEAM SUCKS! Eye-wink
You don't have to disable your internet connection to make steam start in Offline mode. I don't remember how to do it but back before Half Life 2 when i was still indifferent to steam, I remember doing something like that with my net connection running.

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Why I'm Using Steam

Soumis par JeffGeorge le Lun, 2007-01-22 15:01

I'm on a personal quest to never have to leave my house to go to software stores or wait for something to be delivered by common carrier. That, my friends, is why high speed Internet was invented!

I doubt, actually, that the Steam version has any more crashes/bugs than the regular version. Does anyone get the above crashes with the non-Steam version?

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Steam doesn't suck...

Soumis par Thy Reaper le Lun, 2007-01-22 16:32

What's so bad about Steam? It saves me a trip to a store, provides quick access to reviews about a product (which I give a great deal of leniency to, take SE:V reviews, for example), gives more money to the creators of the game, provides advertising to developers they may not otherwise be able to access, and prevents me from losing a game due to multiple disc destruction (I almost lost HL1 this way).

Sure, Steam has problems now and then, but they get resolved quickly, and one day it may just disappear, but I doubt this will happen. And if it does, I doubt we'd lose access to everything.

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Question

Soumis par Guyofdoom le Lun, 2007-01-22 16:48

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you download the game from Steam? Or is it a streaming process? If it's streaming than that seems like a waste and I'd rather have a pure install.

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Answer

Soumis par JeffGeorge le Lun, 2007-01-22 16:53

I don't know.

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Download from Steam

Soumis par Thy Reaper le Lun, 2007-01-22 17:03

You download the game from Steam, and it gets installed on your computer. It is then run like any other program, except most require Steam to be running to run themselves.

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Okay, do this and you'll Understand

Soumis par Riptokus le Lun, 2007-01-22 23:38

Okay, you people don't understand my problems with steam. Okay, here it is, Go get, install, and Play Half life 2 while you are in a place where you are not allowed to have an Internet connection, say, the naval staging base in Bahrain or maybe Camp Hansen, Okinawa. (Both places I didn't have internet, and offline games like Hearts of Iron and Medieval: Total War kept me sane in places where others resorted to drinking until they didn't remember the last week)

I'm sorry, but steam is a piece of crap for giving any developers the opinion that they can distribute games only over an Internet connection. It was their glitchy system that caused me the problem, and Valve's product that destroyed my faith in the glitchy product. By the way, mo non-steam version has never had any problems with units, and it's entirely possible that some steam-verification process is causing him the trouble, since it plays with games in weird ways.

You all can love steam all you want, and give in to the "next generation of delivering games" and ensure that you support a system that will, I assure you, screw the hell out of you someday, but I'll pass, and when someone goes through that situation, then that person too, shall know "What's so bad about Steam."

To date, my 3 year old problem with steam has had exactly 0% progress on being fixed. Waiting to see the next amazing leap forward they do in that area.

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Steam sucks

Soumis par alexdatcu le Mar, 2007-01-23 05:12

I had same problems with the steam game wanting to be online every time you start the game and updating to the latest version which was even more messed up than the previous. The solution was to find a crack for the steam dlls on piratebay.org.

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Not steams fault

Soumis par TakAhLah le Mar, 2007-01-23 05:42

I have to agree that steam is not a good thing to use. However I did buy SEV from steam as at that moment I wanted the game asap.

I have had very few crashes recently...one reg crash I do get is from playing all day and when I come to save, it crashes...but this must be something to do with a memory leak.

Workaround...reboot your comp every 3 or 4 hours.

I think the crashes you are getting are ingame bugs and have nothing to do with it being a steam version. I also got a AVE the other day when I granted independence to a planet and then tried to take control of it via the players options.

There are still things to fix...so make sure you e-mail AH about the problems you find...if you want.

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Steam Version crashes?

Soumis par Badger le Mar, 2007-01-23 09:50

i Haven't played the non-steam download, so i can't compare
i think the theory of memeory leak is probably valid 9see access earlier)-
i have set all my games to every-turn autosave

An interesting point:

the game that crashed my end of turn EVERY TIME, Riptokus processed for me and sent back :
http://www.spaceempires5.com/en-US/node/2261

it DID NOT crash his version...
better version? better computer?

However, yes, severing the internet connection DOES make s difference..
i suspect this has to do, again , with memeory access and multi-tasking ( love those would-be pop-up), rather than with whether Steam itself is running in particular...

The bottom line for me is, Steam did its job, i dont need it running while I'm playing. If i am concerned a game is getting "full" and might crash, i Do disable internet connects- all i can say is it works for me.

good luck, Everybody!

Anyone who wants power; by definition, cannot be trusted with it...

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Re: Crashes In Steam Version

Soumis par JeffGeorge le Mar, 2007-01-23 11:03

How do you make Steam 'not run' while playing? Isn't it required to launch the app? And how would I disable my cable Internet connection while playing? Would it really make any difference?

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Who needs steam and why go to the store?

Soumis par glockgemini le Mar, 2007-01-23 14:02

I had my box delivered and only needed an internet connection to download the latest patch and balance mod and , of course, spaceempires.com.
I have a problem trusting the functionality of my game to some delivery service.

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Re: Who needs steam and why go to the store?

Soumis par Badger le Mar, 2007-01-23 14:07

glockgemini wrote:
I had my box delivered and only needed an internet connection to download the latest patch and balance mod and , of course, spaceempires.com. I have a problem trusting the functionality of my game to some delivery service.

Perhaps that is why my game crashes and yours does not.

Anyone who wants power; by definition, cannot be trusted with it...

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Why Waste Time Relying On Incompetent Delivery Services?

Soumis par JeffGeorge le Mar, 2007-01-23 14:08

I'd rather decide when to have something instead of waiting on the buffoons that work for companies like UPS and the USPS. Point and click.

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Re: Crashes In Steam Version

Soumis par Badger le Mar, 2007-01-23 14:12

JeffGeorge wrote:
How do you make Steam 'not run' while playing? Isn't it required to launch the app? And how would I disable my cable Internet connection while playing? Would it really make any difference?

You can disable steam while playing (r-click the steam icon at bottom right of windows)...
You can boot without steam I believe, give it a try.

i beleivethe issue is internet programs fighting for system resources, not steam IN PARTICULAR... so when i am having trouble, i disable the internet connection temporaily via My computer/my network spaces/my connections...

ask someone a little more current for a more authorative answer, but it does seem to help with my computer - less crashing.

Anyone who wants power; by definition, cannot be trusted with it...

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Re: Crashes In Steam Version

Soumis par JeffGeorge le Mar, 2007-01-23 21:27

Badger wrote:
JeffGeorge wrote:
How do you make Steam 'not run' while playing? Isn't it required to launch the app? And how would I disable my cable Internet connection while playing? Would it really make any difference?

You can disable steam while playing (r-click the steam icon at bottom right of windows)...

I don't see a Disable option, only an Exit option, and it won't let me exit as long as SEV is running.

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Re: Crashes In Steam Version

Soumis par JeffGeorge le Dim, 2007-02-04 12:01

Crash also caused by using the Movement Replay button. This sucks. Who wants to have to save their game before every button click in case the stupid thing crashes?

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Re: Crashes In Steam Version

Soumis par Badger le Dim, 2007-02-04 16:05

if all else fails, disable your internet coonection. i no longer do, but
you can
i believe you can run SE5 with it disabled and then enable the internet connection after.

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Re: Crashes In Steam Version

Soumis par JeffGeorge le Lun, 2007-02-05 08:54

I keep hearing about that possibility, but I'm thinking I'd rather go play Donkey Kong or something than have to take special steps to play this game. I'm just not finding the fun factor in this game yet. I put SE IV away for 5 years before I found it to be entertaining, so maybe I should do the same for SE V.

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Re: Crashes In Steam Version

Soumis par Badger le Jeu, 2007-02-08 01:08

point taken -
and i think i somewhere put that i didn't expect this to be AS R&D as a sega -or whomever - 50 or 60$ game..
on the other hand, this isn't shareware...

On the Gripping Hand-
i run the steam version and am suffering very few crashes anymore...

i still have it on Autosave.. but rarely find i need it.

Do you REALLY think you will subvert System Vampyre before it subverts YOU?

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Re: Crashes In Steam Version

Soumis par JeffGeorge le Dim, 2007-02-25 17:40

Now I'm getting this error when trying to process a turn:

TDirect3DxFile.Start - Can't find xfile

I was getting the same error with Starfury and had to eventually reinstall it. Anyone know how to reinstall the steam version of SEV? I think that I just about sooooo done with this game. It seems to be nothing but an exercise in frustration.

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Re: Crashes In Steam Version

Soumis par kanaric le Dim, 2007-02-25 23:15

I can say on my computer its fairly stable and mine is like a powder keg for crashs.

I have a processor that is stock 2.66 ghz overclocked to 3.8 ghz, I have a motherboard that has problems with SoudnBlaster cards and an X-FI, and I use beta graphics card drivers and custom memory timings. This game has not crashed once for me since i got it.

However other games, for example Neverwinter 2 or Battlefield give me IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL or whatever that is bluescreens, for example. Also have got machine check errors until I updated my bios, and the game didn't crash before that either.

I have many games on steam, no problems, i prefer buying things from Steam or Stardock because they dont require you to keep your CD key and they dont install intrusive anti-piracy software, and they also do not require you to keep an actual CD. Its always there. Things like Steam is the future of PC and probably even console gaming, especially since EB and Gamestop are phasing out carrying PC games. Near me they dont carry them at all anymore.

Console developers have said that in the future they will no longer sell CDs, everything will be "on demand"... the same goes for PC gaming as well. Steam, XBOX Live, Wii's selling old games, etc... that is just the beginning.

Also in case you didn't know if you have no connection to the internet all you do is start steam in offline mode and it works fine. My brother is in the navy on the Abraham Lincoln and he plays it like that all time time without trouble.

If you are in a network that has no connection to the internet you have to disable it, right-click the network connection in the "Network Connections" area of control panel and select disable to start steam otherwise it will think your online and time you out.

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Re: Crashes In Steam Version

Soumis par JeffGeorge le Lun, 2007-03-12 21:15

This error:

TDirect3DxFile.Start - Can't find xfile

is happening again on the Steam version of SEV. Does it happen on the non-Steam version? What the hell causes it and what's the fix?

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Re: Crashes In Steam Version

Soumis par evilginger le Mar, 2007-03-13 02:46

Have run non Steam version (boxed) of SEV for months and never seen this error. It would seem you may be a steam victim?

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Re: Crashes In Steam Version

Soumis par TakAhLah le Mar, 2007-03-13 05:55

I run the steam version of SEV and have had the game since the day it came out...never had that error either.

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Re: Crashes In Steam Version

Soumis par JeffGeorge le Mar, 2007-03-13 07:50

I also had the same error in Star Fury (non-Steam), which actually claimed to be unable to find a file that was right where it said it couldn't find it. I had to reinstall that, and I've also reinstalled SEV at least twice due to this error. I'm sure that it has something to do with the 3D engine used by Malfador, but I don't even know where to begin to get some actual support on these products after paying for them.

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