Ressource handling strategy

I can't answer your questions but I think you bring up a really good point. I've thought about playing a game with limited resources but I never considered that my resource centers might continue to produce resource even if I don't need them thereby waste them. Do you know this happens for sure? If so, sounds like something that should be addressed but I don't have a clue how.

Remote mining, by nature, bypasses any need for a spaceport.

There are 10 types of people in the world:

Those that understand binary, and those that don't.

I'm not sure how "realistic" that is. Challenging, sure, but the sheer mass of the matter involved in fully playing out a planet is staggering. Only the construction of things like ringworlds and sphereworlds (which DO already eliminated the inner planets in a system, presumably for materials) would be costly enough to be measured on a planetary scale. Ships and buildings are so insignificant comparied to a planet's raw mass of materials, that they don't effectivly count.

Remote asteroid mining is the way to go, really.

All you need is L10 mineral extraction to get the robotic miner component. Slap it on a 110kT large satellite, and just have your largest freighter with a satellite bay deploy them in mass. Satellites are quick & cheap to build as well as low on maintenance.

It takes a while to realize that mounting a robo-miner on a ship hull ends-up costing more in maintenance than it produces. The maintenance cost for a simple frigate with nothing but engines, a master computer, and a robo-miner costs well over the 1k resources it brings in per turn. Once you transition remote extraction into satellites, though, you'll see a huge increase in resources.

Next simply start replacing planet miners for storage, and you'll finally get to the point where you can build up your fleets without concern for maintenance costs. Do leave some planet miners just in case the enemy manages to get a warship lose in your asteroid field (not good!)

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"No plan survives contact with the enemy"
Moltke

I was using the same strategy Bolter was using but I noticed that in the game I had going there was a discrepency in the amount of resources replenished per turn. For example, net mineral was saying it was around 100k and I had about 150k/200k in storage. Come next turn it was something like 180k/200k in storage. *scratches head* Something not quite right as the numbers reported from remote mining were not matching the actual results.

Could it have anything to do with the fact that each miner requires 100 supply per turn? I noticed that several of my sat. groups were running out of supplies yet they were still reporting that they were producing.

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Supreme Chancellor Zannis of the T'Nar Republic

SC, I think that's because the storage can only fill up as much resources as the planet where it's built has available per turn. No planet has 50kT of resources available per turn, so while you may have a lot of storage available, it will fill-up at the rate that the planet resources can support.

I'm not sure if mining satellites use any of the resources they produce for their own maintenance, but I do know that I've never had one stop mining because of no supplies. In fact, I don't build any supplies into them, and they work fine (?)

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"No plan survives contact with the enemy"
Moltke

Bolter, I have no clue what you were trying to say. Could you try and rephrase that first paragraph?

There are 10 types of people in the world:

Those that understand binary, and those that don't.

It had to do with Supreme chancellor's observation that even if you have like 50k surplus resources per turn, and you have 50k free storage available that turn, your storage will not fill up in that single turn.

That is because each storage gets filled from local resources, in the planet where it's physically built, rather than from the empire-wide surplus. So, you may have 50k surplus resources empire-wide, but your storage facility will only fill up as fast as your planet's resources allow.

I hope that's more clear.

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"No plan survives contact with the enemy"
Moltke

Um... storage is actually stored locally? Last I checked, I thought storage was empire wide.

There are 10 types of people in the world:

Those that understand binary, and those that don't.

The AI has always had issues with limited resources, IIRC -- even in SEIV.

Also,as far as maintenance Vs. Build cost goes, modding those are INCREDIBLY easy. Well, maintenence anyways -- there's a control in settings.txt for it. TO mod building costs, you'd have to go through components/vehiclesizes and increase everything by the desired amount (adding 0's to make it 10x isn't too terribly hard, just time consuming).

edit:

That said, if you're lazy you could just increase the ship SIZES by 10X and watch costs syrocket as people add more and more stuff in... dunno how the AI would handle either one though.

There are 10 types of people in the world:

Those that understand binary, and those that don't.

Here is what is currently showing for resource production per turn in the game that I am playing:

From Colonies = 74,656
From Ships = 129,040
From Trade = 0
From Tarriffs = 0
From Remote Mining = 129,040
Total = 332,736
Total Expenses 180,780
Net = 151,956

See the problem here? It's counting remote mining twice in both the From Ships line and From Remote Mining lines. So... the net should actually be 22,916.
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Supreme Chancellor Zannis of the T'Nar Republic

That sounds vaguely familiar, like something that used to happen in SEIV.

There are 10 types of people in the world:

Those that understand binary, and those that don't.

No, I'm saying you can go ahead and change it to your liking.

The "core" of this series has always been its modding, if you want a better AI try the balance mod -- and I believe several others are working on better stock AI's already.

There are 10 types of people in the world:

Those that understand binary, and those that don't.