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Star that damage all ships in certain range

Submitted by rd180 on Tue, 2008-07-29 15:18. SE:V MODs

Hi all,
Recently, I started to make a modification of all star systems in game.I made thirty new types of stars and more than hundred types of different star systems including binary, trinary, quaternary, quintuple . I found that some abilities like shield disruption would be interesting for some stars like newtron stars, white dwarfs, giants, supergiants and blue main sequence stars that have ( in real world ) strong star wind, gravitation field or ultraviolet radiation.I tried to realize it through a modification for star ability types.

I added a new stellar ability type for necessary stars, changed chance of this ability to 1000, added the ability “Damage Caused To Space Vehicles” in “Ability 1 Type” field, changed ability scope to “Sector Range - All” and entered a range – 6 in “Ability 1 Range Formula := ” field.When I started a new game, a central star has added ability, but this ability didn’t affect to ships in all sectors except central sector when the star was located.I tried changing of ability type to “Move Towards Center”, but this ability caused moving of all system objects in whole system, when I added only a 6 sectors range for it.

So, how to make a star that have an ability only in a specific range from it ? Not for all system, and not only for central sector.The ability mustn’t work for space when warp points is located.Particularly, how to make a star that will damage all ships when they will approach it ?

Sorry for my imperfect english.

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Re: Star that damage all ships in certain range

Submitted by Fyron on Tue, 2008-07-29 17:12.

Wonder how your ideas on stellar phenomena differ from what I've come up with for FQM.


If the Sector Range scope doesn't actually work, you could make the stellar object occupy a larger hex radius. Something like this in StellarObjectTypes.txt:

Hex Size := 6
Blocked Hex Radius := 2

The model should end up rendered at the same size it is now, but the star "object" will exist further out into space, bringing its abilities with it. Unfortunately, you would then have to deal with the object being "present" in the same sector as nearby planets.. May or may not be worth it.


Another possibility is to create a bunch of invisible "storm" objects with the abilities. You'll want to change storm sizes for all regular storms to a specific size instead of Any (they are all Medium in stock) in all System Types. Then, create your new invisible storm objects with a size of, say, Tiny. This will thus prevent any random regular storms from using the invisible storm object, and it will prevent any "star-extension" storms from using regular graphics.

For an example of this, look at the "Nebulae 1" type storms versus the "Storm 1" type storms in FQM. Nebulae storms can only appear in Nebulae systems, as they are Huge sized. All entries for regular sector-level storms in the SystemTypes file use a size of Medium.


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Re: Star that damage all ships in certain range

Submitted by marhawkman on Tue, 2008-07-29 22:36.

Hmm... Um, I don't think that works either. Your venus fly traps only damage ships that fly through the center, even though they occupy 7 sectors, the six sectors on the outside just take up space. YEah it looks like you'd need to make the storm objects and not give them graphics.

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Re: Star that damage all ships in certain range

Submitted by xanet on Sat, 2008-08-02 06:02.

This sounds like an interesting one. I'm always up for trying out anything that will make the game feel a bit more realistic. I remember when I first started playing the game setting paths to avoid getting too close to stars in fear of my ship being vaporized. Once I realized that no damage would occur no matter what proximity, I was bummed. If any of you can figure out how to make this work I would recommend it.

Another thing that would be neat to see is maybe changing the size of neutron stars so they appear perhaps smaller than a tiny planet in the FQM. From what I’ve read there radius is only about 20 kilometers.

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Re: Star that damage all ships in certain range

Submitted by marhawkman on Sat, 2008-08-02 07:52.

IE a rapidly rotating glowy speck? there is a similar object that takes up about the same screen space as a large planet. Then again, modeling an object that's only 20 Mi across is kinda hard to do "to scale".

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Re: Star that damage all ships in certain range

Submitted by Fyron on Sat, 2008-08-02 14:14.

I dunno... Here is a neutron at a size scale of 1.5. 1 did not work, because the glow bitmap seems to vanish if its effect size is less than ~15.. For reference, tiny planets have a scale of 2. The star is not very impressive at all.

http://fqm5.spaceempires.net/img/new/neutron_tiny_1.jpg


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Re: Star that damage all ships in certain range

Submitted by marhawkman on Sat, 2008-08-02 22:41.

Maybe add a shiny effect that extends outward? Kinda like the sterotypical sunbeams, but with only 2 of them? and have them rotate around it rapidly?

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Re: Star that damage all ships in certain range

Submitted by xanet on Tue, 2008-08-05 01:22.

I like the pic Fyron, that’s perfect imo. I know that it takes a bit of the artistic side away, but that small little 1.5 speck does the trick (at least for me). You’ll never get it perfectly into proportion, but you work with what you’ve got. Looks neat.

Is there a way to manually change the scale Fyron??

I’m a newb at this kind of stuff, would using the Devnull editor work?

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Re: Star that damage all ships in certain range

Submitted by Fyron on Tue, 2008-08-05 09:14.

I'd recommend against using a GUI editor; you learn a lot more with a simple text editor.

XFileClasses_Stellar.txt, find the appropriate entry (Star Neutron in this case), change the 3 Starting Scale values. Then, you need to set the Star Glow bitmap effect size to 10 times the scale value. In this case, the neutron star's scale value is 8, so the appropriate glow size is 80.

Name                                                 := Star Neutron
XFile                                                := Planet1000.x
Override Texture Filename                            := FQM\star_white.bmp
Base Model Radius                                    := 2.0
Starting Rotate X                                    := 50
Starting Rotate Y                                    := 0
Starting Rotate Z                                    := 25
Starting Scale X                                     := 8
Starting Scale Y                                     := 8
Starting Scale Z                                     := 8
...
Number of Bitmap Effects                             := 1
Effect 1 Name                                        := Star Glow
Effect 1 Size                                        := 80

For ease of reference, planets have the following scale value by size:

gas giants: {'Tiny': '5', 'Small': '6', 'Medium': '7', 'Large': '8', 'Huge': '9'}
ice/rock: {'Tiny': '2', 'Small': '3', 'Medium': '4', 'Large': '5', 'Huge': '6'}

The more I look at it, the more I abhor the tiny version of the star.


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Re: Star that damage all ships in certain range

Submitted by rd180 on Wed, 2008-08-13 08:43.

Quote:
Maybe add a shiny effect that extends outward?
My version of a newtron star has only a big bluish glow effect for newtron star. I think it is possible to make a dark newtron star with two repidly rotating light beams by creating two beams as separated objects and give them high rotation speeds. Smiling Here, I've uploaded some screenshots of my versions of stars. link (10 Mb.) - http://rapidshare.com/files/137024257/SEV_Stellar_Mod_v0_18.rar.html

As you see on this screenshots, there will be about 30 different types of stars : 3 types of brown dwarfs, 2 for white dwarfs, few for newtron stars and black holes ( small black holes(3-10 Ms), medium and heavy), all types of main sequence stars(from red dwarfs to hot blue stars), giants(carbon giant, average giant, and bright giant star), supergiants (2 types), probably I'll add some amount of protostars. There will be several systems with consuming black hole, newtron star or white dwarf.(On the pictures from archive by link above, you can see one of such systems. The system is composed by red giant star and black hole with rotating accretion disk and two jets.)

Probably I'll release a beta version of this mod in september or october. In this month, I don't have time to complete it. Sad

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