No bugs in 1.71 at all? |
Could someone update this page please?
http://wiki.spaceempires.net/index.php/Known_Bugs_(SEV)
I'd like to know what I'm up to before starting a new game...
Re: No bugs in 1.71 at all?
It looks like I have to register to edit the page. Rather than do that I can tell you two things I found out about firsthand.
1. Carriers only launch fighters once a turn. I had a carrier launch fighters but they didn't make it into battle before it finished. They were then stuck on their carrier when enemy reinforcements detroyed it.
2. You can't unmothball. In one game I have some expensive ships I mothballed while I didn't need them. Now they're stuck.
Re: No bugs in 1.71 at all?
How's that not a bug?
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#1 is not a bug. It's a feature introduced to reduce the brokenness of fighters. All units can now only be launched once per turn.
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That's a weird limitation... surely there's plenty of ways to descrease the fighter's power (like in Balance Mod?) instead of this kind of artificial limitation. I'm sure we'll have problems because of this "fix"...
Does it apply to the fighters or to the launcher? In other words does it mean that you can't launch the same fighter several times per turn from any launcher, or you can't launch from the same planet/carrier several times per turn?
Re: No bugs in 1.71 at all?
It had nothing to do with power, but with the abuse of teleporting fighters across the map by launching them, moving them, then recovering and launching by a different carrier (which restores full movement for the fighter). A better fix would have been to keep track of movement expended this turn when they are recovered by a carrier, but that's not what MM did.
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that is simple, but not careful move of MM...
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It is actually terrible since the AI will attack the same sector (especially warp points) several times during 1 turn, and the fighters get launched on the 1st attack (needed or not), then are stuck on the carrier until next turn.
It is a terrible limitation for PBW or PBE since any attacker can attack, get their enemy to launch their fighters, then retreat, and then launch the main attack, and the defending fighters are stuck on their carriers.
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Can't you turn off auto launch?
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But you coulnd't do that anyway in simultaneous games since it's the speed that is important, not movement!!! And it's even better to have this "bug" in turn based single player, since if you don't exploit it, but the AI uses it, it gives him a new advantage!
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Not being able to unmothball is the worst bug in 1.71 imho.
~Slimbo
Everything that has transpired has done so according to my design...
Re: No bugs in 1.71 at all?
But you coulnd't do that anyway in simultaneous games since it's the speed that is important, not movement!!! And it's even better to have this "bug" in turn based single player, since if you don't exploit it, but the AI uses it, it gives him a new advantage!
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Re: No bugs in 1.71 at all?
Re: No bugs in 1.71 at all?
Well, I know that in simultaneous games, one turn is separated in 30 days. Ship movement points are divided by 30 and the ship moves one hex when a day is reached when a new entire number is reached.
For instance, if the ship has 12 movement points per turn:
12/30=0.4
It will move (and use abilities) on days :
3 5 8
0.4 0.8 1.2 1.6 2 2.4 2.8 3.2
Therefore in simultaneous games it doesn't help you to "refill" your movement points - it's the speed (0.4/day) that is important.
So if you get a fighter's group movement points refilled on day 27, if the fighter has 15 movement points, it will not move farther than if he wasn't "refilled": he won't have enough time.
27 28 29 30
0.5 1 1.5 2
I think that's also why Emergency Propulsion doesn't work in simultaneous, and ships with 3n+1 speed lose 1 movement point (for instance 13/30=0.433 0.433*13=12.99 rounded to 12)
Or why planets and fixed construction yards build things after the other ships have moved - with 0 movement points they are activated on the last day.
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Damn forum...
Here's the right link:
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