Problem loading save games with latest patch

Is this a save game from before 1.71?

Hi,

the observation i made is:

* Once you loaded a game, "Quit game" before loading another one.
* According to my impression there's a bug which occurs once you load a second game (doesn't matter if it is the same game or another one) without quitting the game in between.
* The problem doesn't show immediately. You may even play several turns and save the game. But even the saved game might show some weird behavior later on. Weird behavior contains things like Crashes, Broken Graphics, Unable to perform certain operations, etc.

So the following works for me:

* Load, Play, Save, Play, Save, Play, Save
* Load, Play, Quit, Start Game, Load, Play, Save, Quit

But not:

* Load, Play, Save, Load, Play

Sincerely yours, Martin

Hi,

yep, "loading patterns" would be the most appropiate term. Be aware that you may even corrupt saved games when you save a file after loading for a second time before saving.

Since i'm observing this rule, my game stability has increased greatly. I used to save/load a lot because i was evaluating several things in the combat simulator.

Regards, Martin

Good Evening All,

Has anyone discovered a true 'fix' for the above topic?

I have downloaded SE5 from Steam very recently. It's only ever been 1.71
I have played into my first campaign, fairly owning the universe, Level 23 in a few weapons, Maxed out tech in all the ship hulls etc. pumping out the research points. fair way into the tech tree i'm guessing.
I have taken over a couple of races, have colonies on all planet types, I have many planets to complicate the savegame.

I found that my auto-save file wouldn't open... i thought, oh, that's odd. went through selecting savegames in reverse-chronological order until all the data about races appeared in the preview in the savegame... I had lost about three auto-saves of the ten that were in the Load Game menu, I selected that one and shrugged, really didn't think much more of it until I went to save it again... about seven hours later.

At the time, I thought to myself, oh, I had better try to see if it'll load again.... no preview... unable to open the save game. I save it under a new name also, but no luck. I'm like, bugger, i'm late, gotta go, I quit the game.

Open the game tonight, select "Resume" (I have set the prefs to single user) and it reports that it's unable to open savefile "newer"

I try to specifically open *any* of the savefiles I have... no luck.

I've restarted computer, proved file permissions in Windows, Tried moving out other files to reduce the folder size, trying different methods as listed above doesn't seem to help.

The game once refused to Alt-TAB back in (screen stayed white all night long) and I force quit it, but apart from that it has run very very stable and fast on my new Core2Duo E8200, DDR3 motherboard. I often left the game running in the background overnight, took a some time to come out of pagefile back into resident, but normally continued fine.

I have used it as a reason to start again, but of the problem is systemic, I'll be a little peeved next time. I'll keep everyone posted

Hi asc3nti0n,

i can't offer a "real" fix but if you stick to "save often, load only once"
there shouldn't be a problem. If you want to check if the game you saved
can be loaded, quit once before you try to load it.

Regards, Martin

Has anyone actually submitted one of these corrupt saves to Malfador?

Space Empires Depot | SE:V Balance Mod

Hi All
Some of the issues here have also been discussed in another thread. See below;
http://spaceempires5.com/en-US/node/5567
I had sent a corrupt save game to Aaron and he responded that the problem was a 'bad' satellite design and also that it only seemed to be Unnamed Mod players having these problems.
Examination of the AI design script that Unnamed uses showed a few problems with the scripting ie Satellites & Drones scripted to use small weapons. Corellon has done a little patch that is accessible on the above thread.
However, I'm still having some problems, just less, but I'm working to identify the triggers.
Cheers
Cicero

Ok Masek thanks for the suggestion it happened to me as well.

If I get you correctly as long as I do

Load, Play, Save, Quit, then quit the game I should be fine

or Load, Play, Save, Quit, Load, to load another game?

when they say "quit" that means exiting the SE5 program entirely.

Hi,

If you insert a "Start the software again" after the "Quit", this can work. As someone else already said, "quitting" means to leave the game entirely.

My buest guess is, that the re-initialisation before loading doesn't work correctly. While this is not a problem with loading right after the software started up (as all pointers are correctly initialized), loading after some turns played probably leaves some residue of the first game behind. My hunches say, that a pointer doesn't get cleared before loading. Probably the pointer has something to do with ship types, as i usually noticed the first signs of problems there.

One thing that happened was: i played a game, to dismiss a turn i loaded it again. Suddenly i had every ship type twice. Probably the memory segment is freed but the pointer still exists....

Sincerely yours, Martin

I am having trouble loading a game the first time. It tells me that it was unable to save my game. I am running off of Windows XP

I need help on saving games in SE5 for windows XP. I don't understand why it will not let me
save my game. After the first turn I get an error. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you

Are you using a mod or custom shipsets?

Space Empires Depot | SE:V Balance Mod

also is the save file you are loading saved from 1.71?

Hi,

Try this:

- Start a new game (don't make anything else)
- Save the game
- Quit SE5
- Start SE5
- Load your game

If even this fails, you should try to re-install your game. A cause
for this problem may be wrongly installed mods.

If this works, your save file probably is corrupted. This may happen
if you loaded a game without starting SE5 right before. In case
of a corrupted savegame, start over. Nobody will be able to revive
it.

Sincerely yours, Martin

I am writing in an attempt to get some answers, because I cannot save
my game. I cannot even autosave I get this message every time I try
and save.

unable to save game "C:\ Program Files\Stratagy First\ space empires
V\SAVEGAME\AUTOSAVE 1. GAME". I get the same kind of message
This happens as soon as I install the game. I have emailed these guys I hope that they can help me.

I have a similar problem... Does the save game info's empire flags vanish? Because it is the same problem with me then.

@Martillious: Do you run Vista? It suxxors. anyways, If vista is your problem you can fix it be re-installing the game. BUT, to get it to work right you'll need to install it somewhere under your user profile. A folder on the desktop is an easy choice.

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This can happen in Win XP if you use an account that does not have full administrator permissions.