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SE5 Patch 1.08 Out

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Submitted by matryx on Tue, 2006-10-17 09:15. Space Empires V General

Here - 17.7MB (http://www.strategyfirst.ca/downloads/patches/se5patch_v108.exe)

It'll be mirrored shortly - many thanks to Julian (SysOp) for the quick linkage while he updates the websites.

Please note: there appears to be initial problems with running this with the steam download.
I don't know how steam is supposed to handle patches, but for now - best treat this as a retail only patch until I get more information.

Edit: Confirmed, Steam has it's own patching process. Valve has the update so it's in their hands - they run to west coast time, so -3 hours - so just suck it up and wait guys Smiling

Edit 3, or 4 - I lose track : There will be an updated version of the demo released soon(tm). Note: this is not a promise of release, or a guarantee that it'll come out in a few days, this is a "some guy on the inside told me *wink wink*".

‹ Release date? Rioting people, what can I do? ›
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SE5 Patch 1.08 Out

Submitted by matryx on Tue, 2006-10-17 09:24.

And the hisory File: http://www.strategyfirst.ca/downloads/patches/se5patch_v108.txt
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Sigh... in the time it took

Submitted by vinco on Tue, 2006-10-17 09:26.

Sigh... in the time it took me to register, someone beat me to the post Sticking out tongue

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Sweet.

Submitted by Solymr on Tue, 2006-10-17 09:26.

Now, I really do have the patch. Just so sad I have a job interview tommorow. God hates me.

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Why oh why

Submitted by Rilbur on Tue, 2006-10-17 09:28.

Isn't it up on Malfador's sight?

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Those that understand binary, and those that don't.

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Swings and Roundabouts my

Submitted by matryx on Tue, 2006-10-17 09:28.

Swings and Roundabouts my dear Solymr Smiling Swings and Roundabouts.
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It's About time !!!!

Submitted by Hmudd67 on Tue, 2006-10-17 09:30.

It's About time !!!!

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MM's site rarely updates

Submitted by matryx on Tue, 2006-10-17 09:31.

Cmon dude, you know how lax those updates are Eye-wink
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Malfador's site...

Submitted by Solymr on Tue, 2006-10-17 09:32.

because the Malfador site is updated once every blue moon?

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Productive delay, eh?

Submitted by Captain Kwok on Tue, 2006-10-17 09:32.

Well it turns out the delay was the 15-20 extra items patched over the weekend for the 1.08 version... Sticking out tongue

Still going to gripe?

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Oooo don't encourage them

Submitted by matryx on Tue, 2006-10-17 09:34.

Oooo don't encourage them!
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Griping

Submitted by Rilbur on Tue, 2006-10-17 09:38.

Captain Kwok wrote:
Still going to gripe?

Don't taunt the people Kwok, or they will start throwing rancid feces at you. I've seen 'em do it, I tell you! IT WASN'T THE MONKEYS IN THE MONKEY CAGE, I SWEAR!

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Steam users got shafted again

Submitted by Solymr on Tue, 2006-10-17 09:38.

Just got told it doesn't work for Steam edition. I'm so glad I'm Australian now.

Edit: However, I'm sure you Steam users won't have to wait too long before the patch is distributed over Steam. Maybe a few hours or so, but you'll have it today.

Now, I'm going to go play my PATCHED SE5.

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I'm really glad the patch is

Submitted by ChiggyVonRichtoven on Tue, 2006-10-17 11:06.

I'm really glad the patch is out, although I can't honestly say that I saw any ill effects in the current game I'm playing except the inability to 'unmothball' ships ( boy was I glad I found that out before I mothballed a whole fleet of ships! Eye-wink )

My question is: how will the 1.08 patch affect games saved with version 1.0?

I'm at work right now and can't check this myself.

Will I have to scrap my saved games and start over fresh with 1.08? Or will my saved games update correctly?

Any help on this is welcome please.

I Want The 58th In My Sky And Raining Fire!!

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Fine

Submitted by Rilbur on Tue, 2006-10-17 11:17.

My save game worked fine.

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Nice 1.08

Submitted by Ressev on Tue, 2006-10-17 11:21.

Solymr wrote:
Now, I really do have the patch. Just so sad I have a job interview tommorow. God hates me.
Ya know, I was going to say that it was worth the delay in the patch just so the 1.08 version would be released (love that one issue was patched the same day it was alerted to: 17. Fixed - The SystemsNames.txt file would crash the game if it had over 16,380 names in it. But, to hear a forum trol say that they can't get the patch is worth it as well.

What do you know, I've got two in the hand.

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The patch is on steam.

Submitted by Wrongshui on Tue, 2006-10-17 13:01.

The patch is on steam.

Why does it say that it breaks save games when the patch doesnt break non-steam version save games?

Edit : Seems to load 1.0 games fine, maybe they are just covering their asses.

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Steam Patch

Submitted by Captain Kythorak on Tue, 2006-10-17 14:01.

Sartre approves. Patch also available over Steam.

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"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."
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Thanks!

Submitted by Kahn on Tue, 2006-10-17 14:45.

Thanks, matryx for the post! Been checking back here like a bad dog, now I can see if all the concerns were addressed.

Sincerely,
Kahn

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New demo soon too?

Submitted by ckotchey on Tue, 2006-10-17 14:57.

So with a 1.08 patch available for the retail version, will there soon be a 1.0x version of the demo released too? The demo will continually be my guage to determine when I think the retail version will be "good enough" for me to buy.

Edit: Ok, i see the "soon" post above. Sigh. Will wait. Seems like the developers should simply be able to "make" to make their new release and "make demo" to make the new demo immediately, but I guess not.

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Demo Pending...

Submitted by Captain Kwok on Tue, 2006-10-17 15:11.

Aaron is working on the new demo at the moment - it's not exactly a cut and dried process like you'd think - so I would guess it should be ready in a few days at the most.

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Wonder why there is no MP

Submitted by RCMP on Tue, 2006-10-17 16:33.

Wonder why there is no MP issues resolved in 1.08? Sad

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Most likely because the bug

Submitted by matryx on Tue, 2006-10-17 16:40.

Most likely because the bug reports for multiplayer issues only arose over the last couple of days. Everything previously has been based on the demo (barring beta-testers work) which, as you know only has hotseat Smiling
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I hope this works.

Submitted by arhaines17 on Tue, 2006-10-17 20:05.

In my SE5 game, the video, when you customize your own single player game, is acting all funny. Sometimes my customized doesn't even start up properly after hittng the 'begin' button.

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Lock up

Submitted by Thunder175 on Tue, 2006-10-17 22:27.

Just curious if anyone else was getting a complete system freeze that causes the computer to reboot with the latest version. Has occured to me after the game has been running for a little while.

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I ordered the game and

Submitted by TrXtR on Wed, 2006-10-18 07:48.

I ordered the game and should be with me friday.

But if the game keeps staying unstable, and new patches keep getting realeased, and I have to drop my save games to use the newest stable version, I'm going to be verry pissed.

These games can take a couple of months. And well, I'm not going to drop a couple of months worth of progress because of their mistakes.

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The logical solution to your

Submitted by LordHavoc on Wed, 2006-10-18 08:19.

The logical solution to your predicament would be to not play the game for a few months and fill the time with something outside of SEV, or if you still want to tinker with SEV you could do a shipset.
Then after a few months and patches then start a fresh game.

That would be the logical solution.

This advice is for all you people who want things "Bigger, Better and Ten Minutes Ago!"

Your lord and master (below Foamy) LordHavoc

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Symptoms

Submitted by Rilbur on Wed, 2006-10-18 08:49.

Thunder175 wrote:
Just curious if anyone else was getting a complete system freeze that causes the computer to reboot with the latest version. Has occured to me after the game has been running for a little while.

Please describe your exact symptoms; if the following looks familiar, PLEASE repost.

You're playing the game, and suddenly the screen goes black, and then the computer reboots. If you go to: windows start menu, right click my computer, advanced tab, startup and recovery, system failure, and automaticly restart is ticked, please UNTICK it -- it is one of microsofts greatest mistakes to make that particular switch tagged by default. You have been getting a "Hidden" blue screen error, see next paragraph.

You get a blue screen error, then the computer reboots. Depending on the text, there are varius options on how to fix it, but the solution for fixing 99% of such errors is to update all drivers. Please, if updating drivers does not fix your problem let us know!

When you update your video drivers remember to disable your antivirus (I'd recommend you pull the plug on your internet so you're 100% sure you can't connect), uninstall the drivers, reboot, (may need to re-disable the antivirus, depending on the maker) then install the new ones, reboot again, and finally re-enable your antivirus (if needed).

If, after doing this you still get simple restarts, please check your power supply. Without detailed specs on your computer its impossible to guess what power supply is needed, but an improper power supply can sometimes produce the symptoms described.

edit:

I'm not 100% certain to come back to this thread, so please feel free to PM me if you desire.

I am not affiliated in any way with MM, SFI, or any other software company. I'm providing you with these suggestions on an as-is basis, from my perspective as a techno-geek and from my experience helping people run down hardware problems with another game (ES: Oblivion).

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Those that understand binary, and those that don't.

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Why cant we be emotional about something... skroef logic

Submitted by TrXtR on Wed, 2006-10-18 09:07.

LordHavoc wrote:
The logical solution to your predicament would be to not play the game for a few months and fill the time with something outside of SEV, or if you still want to tinker with SEV you could do a shipset. Then after a few months and patches then start a fresh game.

That would be the logical solution.

This advice is for all you people who want things "Bigger, Better and Ten Minutes Ago!"

Your lord and master (below Foamy) LordHavoc

[Logic]
1) Buy Game
2) Wait Few Months
3) Play Game
[/Logic]

hehe, usually your only supposed to do that to stuff like wine.
When a game is released, it should be matured.
But yes, in the current situation, if I did buy the game, then I have no choice but to wait for it to become stable. Unless it becomes unsupported before it's unstable. (Universal Combat is an example)

LordHavoc wrote:
This advice is for all you people who want things "Bigger, Better and Ten Minutes Ago!"

I wouldve never wanted that, and my actions didnt at all state that.
Ive waited since the start, when they said they are working on seV.
I waited patiently for a whole year untill they felt the game was ready for release.

Now how on earth is it me wanting it "Bigger, Better and Ten Minutes Ago!"

From what it seems, that was MM's idea to do that. Else they wouldnt have realsed it a couple of days ago saying it's ready for us to play. And they wouldnt have tried to make it bigger and better Eye-wink

I think most people here sitting with a buggy game does not fall in your category. Allot of us waited very patiently, checking the web-site every month or two to see how things are going. We cant be blamed that we have flawed logic or that we are not patient enough. We didnt release it earlier than what it shouldve been. I wouldve been fine with a delay in development.

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Freeze symptoms

Submitted by Thunder175 on Wed, 2006-10-18 11:52.

Rilbur wrote:
Please describe your exact symptoms;

What I am seeing is the the game will just all the sudden freeze the computer. No BSOD, no blank display. The game just freezes in place, mouse stops responding, and the music stutters. After a few seconds the game will reboot the machine. The first time it happened to me I was in the game setup menu. Other times it has happened I have been playing an actual game.

My system is a brand new box I just built, specs below. Everything is water cooled so heat is not an issue.

AMD X2 5000
eVGA 7950GX2 w/ 91.47 drivers
Asus Crosshair motherrboard
2GB DDR2 800
580w power supply

I'll try it out on another machine to see if I get the same symptoms. That machines specs are below:

AMD Thoroughbred 2400
XFX 6800GT w/ 91.47 drivers
Asus nForce2 motherboard
1.25GB DDR

On a side note, even with that speedy system processing turns takes forever! I would have imagined with a system like this the game would be zipping along...

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Turning off auto-reboot

Submitted by Phoenix-D on Wed, 2006-10-18 12:20.

Right click My Computer, click Properties, click Advanced, click Settings under Startup and Recovery, uncheck automatic restart. That'll let you see the error messages at least, because its likely that restart is actually a BSOD and Windows is just auto-rebooting.

SE5 does have some problems with dual-core processors. I haven't noticed the issue since the patch, but turning off one core (start SE5, CTRL-ALT-DELETE, processes tab, right click se5.exe, click Set Affinity, uncheck one CPU) might help.

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Bug

Submitted by Wipperwill on Wed, 2006-10-18 18:09.

My system is very much like Thunder175's first one and I am getting a reboot every time I click the planet list button.
Kind of annoying. My video drivers are up to date.

suggestions?

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Patch fixed my reboot issues

Submitted by Grazic on Wed, 2006-10-18 19:23.

I've got to thank MM for releasing the patch.
It has fixed the few reboot and error problems I weas having for the game, not to mention fixing a few odd issues.
In my past experience Aaron at MM will do his best to fix all issues, so if you can repeat the problem, send all details and a save game to him.
Baron Grazic.

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If SE IV is any indication,

Submitted by Wipperwill on Wed, 2006-10-18 19:47.

If SE IV is any indication, MM knows what to do to fix problems. I'm not complaining yet (emphasis on "yet"). Don't let the mega-whiner's get you down, at least not for a month or so. I'm giving MM the benefit of the doubt.

AS to my above problem, I tried turning off one of my CPU's. That did not work. I have the latest video drivers and my XP is fully patched. I'm wondering if the problem is either with AMD AM2 X2 (Dual CPU), or the EVGA 7950 GX2 1 GB video card. I have 2 GB Ram so that shouldn't be an issue. Been playing various other games with little or no problems (CIV4 and Galciv2 to name two).

Should I turn off Auto-reboot and see what the BSD says?

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Might as well.

Submitted by Phoenix-D on Wed, 2006-10-18 20:00.

It doesn't hurt and it might help.

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BSOD

Submitted by Rilbur on Wed, 2006-10-18 20:00.

[quote=WipperwillShould I turn off Auto-reboot and see what the BSD says?

I'd say yes.

Be aware that "freezing-stutering" then reboot is often a BSOD hidden.

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Those that understand binary, and those that don't.

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ok - Auto reboot is off

Submitted by Wipperwill on Wed, 2006-10-18 20:06.

results as follows :

nv4_disp.dll caused the fault

page_fault_in_nopage_area

also a buncha numbers, I'm thinking hex. I didn't right them down.

The crash happens when I press planets, construction, or colonys on the main page. Game was a quickstart.

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Hex are useful

Submitted by Rilbur on Wed, 2006-10-18 21:50.

Try writing down the hex addresses and googling them.

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Hang during turn, at Empire 8 out of 11 - reproducable

Submitted by _squeege_ on Thu, 2006-11-02 23:20.

I have a saved game that hangs, but instead of it being during the post processing, it's during the turn for empire 8 (Ukra-Tal) out of 11, in a galaxy of 17 stars. I let it run for 2 hours before deciding it was hung, just to be sure. It occurs every time I end turn. Stardate is 2402.6.

If somebody wants the save game, just let me know.

Hardware is XP64, 8 GB RAM, (2) Opteron 280's (4 cores total).

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You may get past this issue

Submitted by Iron Giant on Fri, 2006-11-03 13:32.

_squeege_ wrote:
I have a saved game that hangs, but instead of it being during the post processing, it's during the turn for empire 8 (Ukra-Tal) out of 11, in a galaxy of 17 stars. I let it run for 2 hours before deciding it was hung, just to be sure. It occurs every time I end turn. Stardate is 2402.6.

Since you know which race it is, uncheck them in the game setup, process their turn for them, then recheck them again afterwards to put them back to computer control.

Some have reported that the AI sometimes trys to do something it can't complete, like put more population on a planet that is already full.

You can send the save game to se5 at malfador.com, but the next patch is due out in three days, so hopefully issues like these are resolved.

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It worked

Submitted by _squeege_ on Fri, 2006-11-03 16:22.

Iron Giant wrote:
Since you know which race it is, uncheck them in the game setup, process their turn for them, then recheck them again afterwards to put them back to computer control.

That worked like a charm! Thanks.

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