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AI will never research new ships

Submitted by bbcc on Fri, 2008-03-07 04:18. Space Empires V General

Hi!

In all games i´ve played on SEV, the Ai will never research and design larger ships then the frigate-type. All other components will be used by the Ai, but they´ll never use a ship larger then a frigate or research in a new hull size.

This happen on the Standart game and the BM-Mod.

Why? How can i make changes at the AI Script files to make the AI to use and research other hull sizes?

Thanks for help Smiling

BBCC

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Re: AI will never research new ships

Submitted by LordDemon on Fri, 2008-03-07 04:42.

Iäve seen AI research and use even dreadnaughts, the problem is they research at the speed of crippled snail moving on tar.

How far have you played, is it possible they simply have not researched them yet?

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Re: AI will never research new ships

Submitted by bbcc on Fri, 2008-03-07 05:39.

*hm* About 300 Turns?

The Ai was at the start of the game at lev2 with light hulls und after 300 turns the AI is even there...

The AI have e.g. 80k research points...

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Re: AI will never research new ships

Submitted by Psieye on Fri, 2008-03-07 05:58.

Hmm... and this happens in BM mod too you say... Not sure how to explain that, given the AI is using Baseships in my game. I presume you always set Difficulty to High and you're giving the AI a bonus as well?

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Re: AI will never research new ships

Submitted by bbcc on Fri, 2008-03-07 06:06.

Yes, difficulty is set to "high" and the bonus for AI is set to medium.

Is there a possibility to chande the scriptfiles to make the AI to design and use larger ship sizes?

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Re: AI will never research new ships

Submitted by LordDemon on Fri, 2008-03-07 07:30.

Well, 300 turns should be enough to let AI get better ships. So few questions to narrow it down.

Is this happening on:
a)one game
b) more then one game, but not on all games
c) in all games

Is this happening to:
a) only one of few AI empires (always the same ones)?
b) all/any AI empire?

I assume you are not using the unnamed AI mod, just plain stock files.

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Re: AI will never research new ships

Submitted by Psieye on Fri, 2008-03-07 07:48.

Further question: are you using custom shipsets?

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Re: AI will never research new ships

Submitted by bbcc on Fri, 2008-03-07 08:18.

Ok Smiling

It happens in nearly all games (e.g. in 1 of 1000 not) and to all empires.

Yes, i´m using custom shipsets, but only for me, not for the AI.

I´m using the BM-Mod (Balanced Mod

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Re: AI will never research new ships

Submitted by LordDemon on Fri, 2008-03-07 08:37.

Have you tried alltech games? This could rule out lack of researching it in AI code, and limit it to lack of using it.

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Re: AI will never research new ships

Submitted by bbcc on Fri, 2008-03-07 08:50.

Yes, the the AI will use them. But i´ll will research them, cause alltech games are boring for me.

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Re: AI will never research new ships

Submitted by Captain Kwok on Fri, 2008-03-07 09:13.

The Balance Mod AI utilizes all ship sizes.

What version of the mod and what version of SE:V are you running? Are you running a non-English version?


Space Empires Depot | SE:V Balance Mod

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Re: AI will never research new ships

Submitted by LordHavoc on Fri, 2008-03-07 15:33.

80k research!!!
The sad thing about the AI is that in the game I play, the only way the AI can even get that high is if I give them a couple of research planets. Thats on hard with max bonus.
I guess i'm too used to playing humans Sad

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Re: AI will never research new ships

Submitted by capnq on Fri, 2008-03-07 16:51.

I've seen stock AIs with no bonus deploying destroyers as early as turn 30.

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Re: AI will never research new ships

Submitted by apw2 on Fri, 2008-03-07 17:00.

I find the AI mostly builds frigates and cruisers, annoying yes, but they build them in their hundreds. While they do have the odd dreadnought and starbases, but never starships.

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Re: AI will never research new ships

Submitted by Vince278 on Fri, 2008-03-07 17:44.

Can't say I've ever seen this and I often use a bewildering array of mods and play testing self-mods at the same time. Smiling

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Re: AI will never research new ships

Submitted by pyroman on Fri, 2008-03-07 20:15.

hmm thats very strange...

This is what I would do if I were you, remove the special ship set your using. Why? because your having an issue that doesnt happen in stock. Try the game and see if they build bigger ships. If no, remove BM because this issue doesnt happen in stock, if still no, delete stock, try again, dont load save games or any other files.

If that doesnt work...well it will work

OR

Just set the game to have a lot of tech points at the start and instead of letting the computer make empires, make your own computer empires and use the tech points to research bigger ships

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Re: AI will never research new ships

Submitted by apw2 on Sat, 2008-03-08 18:55.

Or send a message and offer a load of your own dreadnoughts to the AI? Or Research?

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