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New Player with Quesitons

Submitted by Admiral Himerias on Thu, 2007-12-27 16:23. Space Empires V General

Hi, I just played the demo and got hooked. OK but there is one thing that is really stopping me from getting this game: AI. I am not a big multiplayer online person. So I often play singleplayer. I am not asking for AI that fights like Napoleon Bonaparte or Julius Ceasar. Just AI that puts up at least a decent fight and that can from time to time, or even more often, keep me on the ropes. But from what I have read on these boards the AI is dumb as dirt. Are there any mods that work with the latest patches which repair the AI and make it put up a half-decent fight?

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Re: New Player with Quesitons

Submitted by fdlu on Thu, 2007-12-27 17:03.

I am not a avid player due to lack of time but I think that a lot of mods have a better AI than the stock game.

I have played with the so called Balance Mod and it seems ok. ( However I have it on dumb as dirt as I am still fiddling with the game mechanics). Give it a try.

I think that the balnace mod is popular and it does not change the game radically.
There may be better mods out there concerning the AI. (Some change ONLY the AI).

Have fun and best wishes for the coming new year

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Re: New Player with Quesitons

Submitted by Isopsyco on Thu, 2007-12-27 17:38.

The two big ones that really have a decent AI: Kwok's Balance Mod and the unnamed mod (author by the same name).

BM as its known, is a good 'repair' of the stock game. Unnamed's mod has a really good AI for attack and defense (he is also working on the politic engine as well).

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Re: New Player with Quesitons

Submitted by MasterChiToes on Thu, 2007-12-27 17:50.

The one thing that would make the Balance Mod AI really competitive is put in a diminished returns formula for research and intelligence. If the humans couldn't so easily vastly out research and espionage the AI, then... well, I'd probably lose. Eye-wink

But yes, the AI puts up a half decent fight with the two most popular Mods with AI.

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Re: New Player with Quesitons

Submitted by Isdahl on Fri, 2007-12-28 00:20.

I've played both Unnamed mod and the Balance mod, and they both have very good A.I.

The Unnamed Mod is almost all A.I. improvements, and keeps the stock game ...stock. I really like this mod the best so far. The balance mod has a great A.I., a real challenge for me, but many changes were made to the stock game itself for more balance and more of a challenge, which i'm not too crazy about, but only becuase i'm still learning the stock game and am not ready to take on the major changes that were made. All in all, with these mods available you can not go wrong with the A.I. by installing the mods. But if you just stay with the stock game when you get it, you will probobly be upset that dirt, is probobly much smarter than the stock A.I. LOL. just my opinion, good hunting and kill well.

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Re: New Player with Quesitons

Submitted by Setekh on Fri, 2007-12-28 14:14.

There are some awesome mods out with vastly improved AI, get the full game you will love it.

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Re: New Player with Quesitons

Submitted by Vince278 on Sat, 2007-12-29 11:37.

The balance mod has a good AI. My only complaint (a small one) is that the tech progression is too limited for me. Can I get a balance mod AI with a stock tech progression? Smiling

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Re: New Player with Quesitons

Submitted by Fyron on Sat, 2007-12-29 12:06.

That's what Unnamed AI Mod is, with some tweaks.


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Re: New Player with Quesitons

Submitted by Psieye on Sat, 2007-12-29 15:20.

The game is constantly evolving as Mods are updated more and more. The AI will get better with time as more coding tools (read: functions) become available. Having said that, it's already at a respectable level provided you give it the AI bonus (multipliers to construction rate and point generation). There are 3 things you can do if you really really want the AI to be hardcore:

1) Play in Team Mode. All the AI will gang up on you.
2) Customise just how big the AI bonus is. Why not x100 for insanity's sake?
3) Leave Intel on as you do step 1 and maybe 2. The AI of Balance Mod could do with better attack algorithms but it damn well knows how to make it hell for you to attack it. Give it Intel as well and see how you scrape together something to throw at its defences.

Also, there can be more mods born in the future and present ones which become more well-known. GidMod I hear, has made quite some AI advances too.

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