GidMod, future concept: Planet Development. |
I am considering drasticly changing how planets are developed under my mod (and only under my mod, this probably isn't appropriate for the stock game).
In a nutshell, planets would have reduced population, facility, and cargo space than they currently have now.
Players (and the AI) would build facilities, each increasing a planet's facility, population, and cargo space (depending on the facility type). We already have one for increasing cargo space in the stock game. There would be possibly one or two new tech areas to cover the new facilities.
The question is: Is this something the player community is interested in, or would this just over-complicate my mod? I'm interested in doing this (and it wouldn't be that hard to implement), but I am unsure whether it is something people other than me would like to play.

Re: GidMod, future concept: Planet Development.
Me, I'd certainly be interested in a "increase population limit" facility (assuming it can be done {Edit: Oh I see, it can be done}). I'm not sure of an "increase facility space" facility though. Neat idea but... not quite so appealing.
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Re: GidMod, future concept: Planet Development.
You could also try to increase the cost of the facilities, so that the first on a planet costs x and the second 2*x....
Therefore it could become an interesting question, if you will build a 3. facility or not. But I'm not sure if this can be modded.

Re: GidMod, future concept: Planet Development.
I certainly like the idea of added facility and population space, the facilities that provide this should be relatively expensive to build though, since we 're probably talking about changing large parts of the planet to make them habitable. The coolest way to do this would be by terraforming the planet, similar to the way atmosphere conversion works, only changing the atmosphere or planet to something better than just breathable. I guess that would be impossible though, but there are other possibilities ofcourse, one example would be subterranean infrastructure: This 'facility' would make it possible to build other facilities underground, (or in deeper layers on gas giants)
extra facility space is certainly a neat idea, but since this will add lots of extra facilities to the game, later game components should probably be made a bit more expensive, to compensate for the effect.

Re: GidMod, future concept: Planet Development.
I can imagine that this would lead to long calculations on whether it is a good idea to build such a facility or not, while the flexibility of the system is nice, it would lead to a little bit too much micromanaging for my tastes. I'd rather have a coded limit of 1 or a few of such facilities on a planet.

Re: GidMod, future concept: Planet Development.
No don't toss it! I really like the idea, improving your colonies is one of the things that I really liked about masters of orion 2, and really missed in the SE series so far.
Re: GidMod, future concept: Planet Development.
This was something I was thinking about modding into my version of the balance mod. Reducing the storage capcity and making it so you needed to build cargo facilities to hold any decent amount. Also reducing the population capcity and requireing you to build housing facilities to hold more. I thought of it when I was changing the structure size of some of the buildings.
Kyle

Re: GidMod, future concept: Planet Development.
Yeah I'd been thinking of a "improve colonies globally by new research areas" as an alternative. That and there are some aspects of the game I don't think are strictly necessary - like upgrading facilities or life support (as opposed to having them naturally get better as you research).
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Re: GidMod, future concept: Planet Development.
Hmmm... that's a nifty idea. You can set it so when the research is done it automatically imrpoves certain facilities? That's a really good idea!

Re: GidMod, future concept: Planet Development.
Ahahaha, you'll likely have to wait at least 2 years before I even start modding. All I've got right now are too many ideas and not enough time to even make a multiplayer-only (read: no AI) mod of it all.
As for miniaturisation - that's what mounts are for ('component enhancements' if we're to call them properly).
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Re: GidMod, future concept: Planet Development.
hhmm interesting... however my 1st thought was the same as most peoples regarding facilities that increase facility space, just be infinite spiral.
but what about facility space increasing with population, i.e small town growing to city to metropolis... therefore as u build facilities to increase polulation u naturaly gain space to build more factories and such.
of course each planet can only suport x amount of people so no infinite progresion problem and no arbirary limits.
Re: GidMod, future concept: Planet Development.
so no possibility of a get_planet_population greater than.... some arbitrary number = +1000 facility space.
by now you have noticed i dont do formulas much, or at all. however is such a thing posible? not being a modder myself i dont know what specific new functions were added in recent patches.
Re: GidMod, future concept: Planet Development.
ah that is sad. was thinking of gritty galaxy mod where all components required certain amounts of crew to function, gues cant do the same for facilities then? well thats the gist of what u said anyway i think.
gues you will just have to nag for modding tools like everyone else...

Re: GidMod, future concept: Planet Development.
Saaaaaaaaaaay.
You're probably right in that you can't have population size modify things in the planet file increase. But can you make the population bonuses apply to a facility? A structure that granted additional facility space based on the population bonus it recieves could be one workaround. Maybe. I'm not sure if you can Get_population_size() anywhere, but.




Re: GidMod, future concept: Planet Development.
Facilities that add facility space can lead to an infinite amount of space...
A good approach is making a good set of population modifiers and allowing facilities to increase the population amount.
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