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Could the Space Empires V expansion be soon?

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Submitted by Wade on Sun, 2007-10-14 02:34. Space Empires V General

Could the Space Empires V expansion be soon?

The excerpts that follow below are from the 'IRC Transcript of Q/A with Aaron Hall!' at http://www.spaceempires5.com/en-US/node/1186. This is from the main/home screen of spaceempires5.com. It is dated in November 2006. ("Submitted by SysOp on Tue, 2006-11-07 23:40.")
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[20:09] Malfador: So yes, we'll get to them. But bugs come first. It usually goes, bugs, UI improvements, modding requests, feature additions.
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[20:15] Combat_Wombat: Atrocities asks: When can we expect an expansion pack for SEV?
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[20:16] Malfador: First comes bug fixes, localized versions of SE5, the modding docs, and then I'll start in on the expansion. Hopefully early next year.
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(Again, this is dated November 2006.)
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Also, see these videos. Though they do not contain a mention of the expansion.

One with Space Empires developer Aaron Hall of Malfador Machinations there at http://www.spaceempires5.com/en-US/node/962 titled, 'Interview with Aaron Hall'.

And a longer, in depth video on YouTube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f0BEFxTrdU titled, 'Space Empires V Developer Interview'.

-Wade

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Re: Could the Space Empires V expansion be soon?

Submitted by Innuendo on Sun, 2007-10-14 02:39.

I'm not so sure, there seems to be a few things popping up after 1.58, so we'll have to see how easy they are to resolve.

I'm more curious as to what a Space Empires Expansion would be. In other games I play expansions generally provide new units or races and the like, but that would be irrelevant in SEV as you can just mod that in and many people already have.

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Re: Could the Space Empires V expansion be soon?

Submitted by Wade on Sun, 2007-10-14 02:46.

Imagination is the limit. It could include many ideas listed in 'Space Empires V and VI: Expansions and the Future: Tell the Company What's on Your Wish List' and 'Space Empires V: General Thoughts, Observations, and Suggestions' and many other threads.

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Re: Could the Space Empires V expansion be soon?

Submitted by Telumehtar on Sun, 2007-10-14 07:00.

do not underestimate the "...UI improvements, modding requests..." part, especially if the requests include AI improvements. I don't think it will be soon.

I would welcome and pay an expansion even if the only addition was specialized, distinct and "smart" AI for the empires, a streamlined way to select and incorporate civilizations in the start of the game - including modded empires - unique homeworlds for the races including OUR Solar System and perhaps an optional FTL system for the "Not connected Warp Points" option that makes no sense as it is.

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Re: Could the Space Empires V expansion be soon?

Submitted by Captain Kwok on Sun, 2007-10-14 08:49.

I haven't heard anything about an expansion pack.


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Re: Could the Space Empires V expansion be soon?

Submitted by Santiago on Sun, 2007-10-14 09:58.

Yes, we need more UI improvements

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Re: Could the Space Empires V expansion be soon?

Submitted by Fyron on Sun, 2007-10-14 12:45.

I wouldn't take a random comment from an IRC chat as authoritative proof of an impending expansion pack...


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Re: Could the Space Empires V expansion be soon?

Submitted by Rilo57 on Sun, 2007-10-14 14:53.

we don't need an official expansion pack, we'll create our own.

SEV, more than a feeling.

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Re: Could the Space Empires V expansion be soon?

Submitted by Innuendo on Sun, 2007-10-14 19:05.

It appears that I have been suckered in to believing the 'truth' of the internet. An expansion for Space Empires doesn't sound right as none of the previous versions had expansions.

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Re: Could the Space Empires V expansion be soon?

Submitted by Shinigami on Sun, 2007-10-14 19:09.

Um, depending on how you look at it IV did.

I'd rather see some more polishing of the game I've already paid for before being expected to buy an expansion.

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Re: Could the Space Empires V expansion be soon?

Submitted by Wade on Sun, 2007-10-14 21:23.

Well, yes, of course. I agree with that too. But Malfador Machinations could have it in the works still while improving the current game.

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Re: Could the Space Empires V expansion be soon?

Submitted by Wade on Sun, 2007-10-14 21:26.

Well, I'm not sure what you're implying. How were you "...suckered in to believing the 'truth' of the internet."? Also, What "truth" do you beleive is false?

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Re: Could the Space Empires V expansion be soon?

Submitted by Innuendo on Mon, 2007-10-15 00:27.

I'm sorry, I'm not doubting your information, it's just that the idea of a Space Empires expansion doesn't sound right to me. Usually I treat most of what I find on the internet with scepticism, but for some reason your quote convinced me that an expansion was coming.

I don't know if an expansion is coming or not, I don't know that much, and I know you've got links that I haven't visited yet. My point was meant to be that I was stupid for not researching more and just being lazy.

Sorry again Wade for seeming like I was attacking your post.

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Re: Could the Space Empires V expansion be soon?

Submitted by Wade on Mon, 2007-10-15 01:19.

No problem. I didn't take offense or feel that you were trying to insult. I agree that maybe the expansion is not likely very soon. I hope that the current game is improved upon in a speedy manner before the expansion is released.

I think Malfador Machinations has the expansion as a side project. I wonder what effort is put towards the expansion as opposed to updates. Maybe working both together brings new insights and progress.

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Re: Could the Space Empires V expansion be soon?

Submitted by Prankowski on Mon, 2007-10-15 03:03.

uhm, you know that MM is a one-man-army?!
so the current split of work would be, if the expansion is realy in planning, something like this

bugfixing and adding features: 1 programmer

developing new expansion pack: the rest of the company

Smiling

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I have one thing to say....

Submitted by Solymr on Mon, 2007-10-15 03:48.

PLEASE GOD NO!

With all my heart, I hope that MM does not take heed of this Wade person and decide to ditch the updates in order to make an expansion which will not only introduce new buggy features, but leave current ones untouched.

MM only has so much time and effort and I think we'd all much rather he got on with fixing and improving the current game, rather than get side tracked on an expansion which we probably wouldn't see for sometime and in the end, don't really need.

To be blunt Wade, most of your ideas can be modded in and the rest just go against the nature of Space Empires mechanics, i,e FTL drives. I rather enjoy SEV without FTL drives and I don't really see the need for such a heavy overhaul of the movement system. If you want to change SEV to suit you, by all means do so. I know I've changed a lot of the game to suit myself personally, but please don't ask Aaron to take away valuable time from bugfixes, UI improvements to change the game to suit yourself.

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Re: Could the Space Empires V expansion be soon?

Submitted by Ashbery76 on Mon, 2007-10-15 12:55.

MM still needs to pay the bills and after spending so much time making this engine an expansion pack makes sence.The game still lacks flavour in many areas,more events,monsters,pirates,much needed expanded ground combat would be great.

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Re: Could the Space Empires V expansion be soon?

Submitted by MRing on Mon, 2007-10-15 16:40.

Keeping in mind that thanks to Vista & Nvidia breaking a degree of backwards compatibility I haven't even been able to play a ton of SE5 (having a blast in a SE4 game with a friend though), I'd still be willing to buy an expansion.

All I'd want in it is a patch roll-up, perhaps a map/game/scenario editor as described above, and perhaps a few UI tweaks and I'd pay up.

Why? This is, like someone else said, a one man dev house, and if we lost the SE franchise.. well, clearly, it'd piss off the Xi-Chung hive and they'd destroy the planet. I've therefore got slightly lower standards; some of the niceties are made up for by uniqueness and a willingness to simply support the dev. Are there any other games on the market like SE4/5? The answer: Not really. Back in the day it had some competition but they've all, to my knowledge, withered and died, and open source attempts to revive them move at a tectonic pace.

If I end up making a few million any time soon, I'll contact MM and offer him lifetime employment. Until then, as long as some sort of effort is put in to one, I for one wouldn't mind buying an expansion a year (and a full new version every other year perhaps, or whatever time frame is realistic).

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Re: Could the Space Empires V expansion be soon?

Submitted by groovyfishguy on Mon, 2007-10-15 17:12.

Prankowski wrote:
uhm, you know that MM is a one-man-army?! so the current split of work would be, if the expansion is realy in planning, something like this

bugfixing and adding features: 1 programmer

developing new expansion pack: the rest of the company

:)


Thank You I needed to laugh Smiling

Groovy Baby Yeah!

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Re: Could the Space Empires V expansion be soon?

Submitted by Innuendo on Mon, 2007-10-15 19:12.

I agree with MRing, we need to support MM. If he needs to bring out an expansion to help pay for continued development in Space Empires I'd be willing to pay for it.

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Re: Could the Space Empires V expansion be soon?

Submitted by devnullicus on Mon, 2007-10-15 20:05.

Hell, I'd not only be willing to pay for an expansion to help support Aaron, I'd probably be willing to do the bugfixing and maintenance of SEV if Aaron wanted to start on an expansion or SEVI. But then, somehow I doubt Aaron would want another programmer in his code Smiling

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Re: Could the Space Empires V expansion be soon?

Submitted by Wade on Mon, 2007-10-15 23:02.

Prankowski wrote:
uhm, you know that MM is a one-man-army?! so the current split of work would be, if the expansion is realy in planning, something like this

bugfixing and adding features: 1 programmer

developing new expansion pack: the rest of the company

:)

Heehee. Funny. No sarcasm from me. It is funny.

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Re: I have one thing to say....

Submitted by Wade on Mon, 2007-10-15 23:14.

I'm meaning no hostility: Be blunt all you want. It doesn't affect me.

The wish list is desire by many for the game to be suited to themselves; and many agree on many requests. In one of my posts in the Lish List I state:

"Yes. I know that I can learn to mod and create to my hearts desire. It just does not interest me at this time. I prefer to play with my free time. These are "Wish List" items for future versions, expansions, and games of Space Empires.

If the company does the work then I'll pay the money."

So...yes, I want the game suited to me; and to everyone else that have ideas. That's how Space Empires evolved. Also, I think that many that post here are modders but the vast majority just play the game. They are "lurkers" like I often am til a subject really interests them to post.

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Re: Could the Space Empires V expansion be soon?

Submitted by Fyron on Mon, 2007-10-15 23:27.

If you want to support Aaron that much, you could always send him a check for $50 in lieu of an actual expansion. Eye-wink


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Re: Could the Space Empires V expansion be soon?

Submitted by Wade on Mon, 2007-10-15 23:49.

Heehee. I'll actually do that if he can promise the goods! I'm not kidding! Where do I pre-order?! I don't need any details about what it will include. Heehee. Sign me up!

-Wade

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Re: Could the Space Empires V expansion be soon?

Submitted by Fyron on Tue, 2007-10-16 00:47.

Pre-orders for an idle fancy? Sticking out tongue I was just proposing a random donation.


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Re: Could the Space Empires V expansion be soon?

Submitted by MRing on Tue, 2007-10-16 12:32.

I'm waffling on it at the moment, a random donation just for the good of the SE franchise, but if I broke down and decided to do it, is there a paypal link somewhere?

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