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Balance Mod/Patch 1.58 and current PBW games

Submitted by javaslinger on Thu, 2007-10-11 17:13. Space Empires V General

So as I understand it, patch 1.58 will not by itself break patch 1.44 games.

However, 1.44/BM1.09 games will be broken by the 1.58 patch.

And I thought I remember Kwok saying that BM1.10 would not be compatible with BM1.09 games.

So, am I right in assuming that current games with the 1.44/BM1.09 combo will not be able to be upgraded to 1.58. Period.

I hope I'm wrong, but I suppose I'll survive....

Javaslinger

‹ Breen and Ferengi Complete AI with 1.58? ›
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Re: Balance Mod/Patch 1.58 and current PBW games

Submitted by ekolis on Thu, 2007-10-11 17:32.

That is correct... Sad

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Re: Balance Mod/Patch 1.58 and current PBW games

Submitted by Fyron on Thu, 2007-10-11 19:56.

It shouldn't be very hard for Kwok to put out a BM 1.09a that is savegame compatible with BM 1.09, and works in SE5 1.58...


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Re: Balance Mod/Patch 1.58 and current PBW games

Submitted by Harmonious Hegemony on Thu, 2007-10-11 21:17.

As I recall, Kwok told us a long time ago (months?) that 1.09 games would not work with his next BM update.

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Re: Balance Mod/Patch 1.58 and current PBW games

Submitted by Myrath on Fri, 2007-10-12 00:06.

Captain Kwok, Will you be applying an update to Balance Mod 1.09 to make it work with 1.58?
Not asking for new features like in 1.10... but really just the patch to make it work?

Will it already work with the Setup file changed? (Ofcourse with the intel patch applied?)

Hope so; cause 1.58 offers a lot of new stuff .

~Myrath

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Re: Balance Mod/Patch 1.58 and current PBW games

Submitted by Crian on Fri, 2007-10-12 02:24.

Kwok posted somewhere else that he'll be uploading BM 1.10 pretty soon right after patch 1.58 is released, so just a little more waiting for us then. Smiling

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Re: Balance Mod/Patch 1.58 and current PBW games

Submitted by Blubel on Fri, 2007-10-12 03:13.

If I remember correctly he said something about tonight or tomorrow. But the problem is that all or current PBW games will not be compatible with it...

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Re: Balance Mod/Patch 1.58 and current PBW games

Submitted by ltchobs on Fri, 2007-10-12 05:39.

All,

Capt Kwok said (under the 'Patch Released' thread) that he should have 1.10 out tonight (Friday). YAY! He'll have to answer the 1.44/1.09 - 1.58/1.10 save game issue.

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Re: Balance Mod/Patch 1.58 and current PBW games

Submitted by javaslinger on Fri, 2007-10-12 06:56.

The release of 1.10 is not what I'm asking about....

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Re: Balance Mod/Patch 1.58 and current PBW games

Submitted by Crian on Fri, 2007-10-12 07:48.

Ah yes, you mean whether he'll release a minipatch so that BM 1.09 games are still playable under patch 1.58 right?

Personally I wouldn't expect he'd bother doing that, it might be too tedious. I have a PBW game using BM 1.09 too, what I did was make a new folder for the 1.44 game version so my PBW game can continue, then I patched the original folder to 1.58.

Just my two cents. Smiling

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Re: Balance Mod/Patch 1.58 and current PBW games

Submitted by Captain Kwok on Fri, 2007-10-12 08:59.

I think se5a will adapt some of the changes from v1.10 into v1.09 for PBW purposes.


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Re: Balance Mod/Patch 1.58 and current PBW games

Submitted by CaptainBrann on Fri, 2007-10-12 14:19.

Crian wrote:
Ah yes, you mean whether he'll release a minipatch so that BM 1.09 games are still playable under patch 1.58 right?

Personally I wouldn't expect he'd bother doing that, it might be too tedious. I have a PBW game using BM 1.09 too, what I did was make a new folder for the 1.44 game version so my PBW game can continue, then I patched the original folder to 1.58.

Just my two cents. :)

How do you have 2 versions of SEV working?

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Re: Balance Mod/Patch 1.58 and current PBW games

Submitted by Blubel on Fri, 2007-10-12 17:45.

It is very easy to have two versions of SEV working. You just have to copy the folder. When you patch only one version will get patched, so you can still play with 1.44.

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Re: Balance Mod/Patch 1.58 and current PBW games

Submitted by Crian on Fri, 2007-10-12 18:16.

Blubel wrote:
It is very easy to have two versions of SEV working. You just have to copy the folder. When you patch only one version will get patched, so you can still play with 1.44.

Yep, that's about it Smiling. Basically, make a copy of the Space Empires V folder in your Malfador Machinations folder, rename it to "SEV v144" for example, so you know it's the older version. Then run the 1.58 patch, it will automatically install itself on the original game folder... leaving the older version in the copy you made intact. You should still be able to play your older games. Smiling

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Re: Balance Mod/Patch 1.58 and current PBW games

Submitted by Fyron on Fri, 2007-10-12 19:42.

None of this is possible with a Steam purchased copy, naturally.


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Re: Balance Mod/Patch 1.58 and current PBW games

Submitted by RBcrusher on Sat, 2007-10-13 11:03.

Captain Kwok wrote:
I think se5a will adapt some of the changes from v1.10 into v1.09 for PBW purposes.

Cool, how is it going on that process.. se5a?
I could probably manage to do sufficient edits to BM1.09 data files to get it to work with se1.58 too, but it would be a big help if a consolidated list of the specific data file changes from se1.44 to se1.58 was available somewhere.
Otherwise, have to do file diffs on them all I guess.

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cheers, Ron

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Re: Balance Mod/Patch 1.58 and current PBW games

Submitted by Captain Kwok on Sat, 2007-10-13 18:09.

Actually I'll probably put together v1.09 "A" instead, there's a few AI fixes needed for solo play. Perhaps by the end of next weekend.


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