Settings.txt pop modifier problem

4001 entries might be too many...?

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This is the reason I suggested to MM that the pop modifiers be controlled with a single formula line, rather than hundreds or thousands of entries.

Not only can't it handle some amounts, but those 4001 entries are a pain to edit.

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4000 entries....man...

I think at this point it might actually take LESS processing power to work with a formula than a multi-thousand entry table.

My only guess as to why there is a table at all, is that this aspect of the files has simply been copied from eariler incarnations of Space Empires.

Past time for a change.

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so can a formula be implemented??
cause i'm working on one, i just don't know how to add it in.

I got my own custom tweaks, but I only 'doubled' the number of entries to about 192, to work in tandem with increasing population sizes of Ring/Sphere Worlds.
As the numbers get bigger, I start using larger increments.

Also, SY rate increase becomes larger than Production rate increase with my tweaks, since there is a limit to how much people can effectively work stuff like farms or mines, yet a ship yard can usually benifit from an army of wokers when you got plenty of space to spare.

Example, at the 'end' of the stock stuff, I removed the 'last' line and added a new batch, starting like this, with increments of around 1k.

(Edit Note: I changed my files to better balance them, definately to high before, so I've edited this post a bit.)

Pop Modifier 101 Population Amount := 10199
Pop Modifier 101 Production Modifier Percent := 201
Pop Modifier 101 SY Rate Modifier Percent := 202
Pop Modifier 102 Population Amount := 11999
Pop Modifier 102 Production Modifier Percent := 202
Pop Modifier 102 SY Rate Modifier Percent := 204
Pop Modifier 103 Population Amount := 12999
Pop Modifier 103 Production Modifier Percent := 203
Pop Modifier 103 SY Rate Modifier Percent := 206
Pop Modifier 104 Population Amount := 13999
Pop Modifier 104 Production Modifier Percent := 204
Pop Modifier 104 SY Rate Modifier Percent := 208
Pop Modifier 105 Population Amount := 14999
Pop Modifier 105 Production Modifier Percent := 205
Pop Modifier 105 SY Rate Modifier Percent := 210
Pop Modifier 106 Population Amount := 15999
Pop Modifier 106 Production Modifier Percent := 206
Pop Modifier 106 SY Rate Modifier Percent := 212

It increases at one point to increments of 5k, and then 10k, with 20k increments at the end, for populations of Ring/Sphere Worlds (tweaked max pop 128b/512b respectively in my game), it ends like this.

Pop Modifier 187 Population Amount := 419999
Pop Modifier 187 Production Modifier Percent := 355
Pop Modifier 187 SY Rate Modifier Percent := 510
Pop Modifier 188 Population Amount := 439999
Pop Modifier 188 Production Modifier Percent := 360
Pop Modifier 188 SY Rate Modifier Percent := 520
Pop Modifier 189 Population Amount := 459999
Pop Modifier 189 Production Modifier Percent := 365
Pop Modifier 189 SY Rate Modifier Percent := 530
Pop Modifier 190 Population Amount := 479999
Pop Modifier 190 Production Modifier Percent := 370
Pop Modifier 190 SY Rate Modifier Percent := 540
Pop Modifier 191 Population Amount := 499999
Pop Modifier 191 Production Modifier Percent := 375
Pop Modifier 191 SY Rate Modifier Percent := 550
Pop Modifier 192 Population Amount := 511999
Pop Modifier 192 Production Modifier Percent := 380
Pop Modifier 192 SY Rate Modifier Percent := 560

Seem like a bit too much?
well, you take something with a 1 AU radius, make it a sphere, and you get something close to 300 * 10^15 square km, or close to 110 * 10^15 square miles (compared to 510 * 10^6 square km or 317 * 10^6 square miles of Earth)... or roughly 600 million times more surface area than Earth...
Yeah, lots of people, lots of space, lots of potential to mass produce stuff like crazy, like having an assembly line for capital ships...

Since it is possible to have multiple SY on a planet as of 1.58, I might further reduce the Production/SY modifiers, as I have increased Ring/Sphere World facility space to 200,000kt/800,000kt to better represent how freaking huge they are.