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Borg ship set ready!!

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Submitted by TakAhLah on Sat, 2007-04-28 16:44. SE:V MODs

This is a pic of some of the borg ships.

Hi

I'm working on my first ever ship set and the first version is almost ready! Some of the things are pretty rough and I'll need to go back and rework them...basically I did some of the thing really just to see how it all works.

I selected the Borg race beacuse their main ships are easy to model seeing as they are cubes and this being the first time I've ever used any type of 3d modeling tool...I needed something easy...so please be forgiving of any mistakes or botched things!

Anyway I digress...what will be in the first version and what wont...I'll list it here and later when I put the file up for download!

All the main ships...though I'm not happy with the model of the colony ship, freighter or carrier! (all textures will be reworked on all ships)
fighters
Drone
Satellite
Troop

Not included
Starbases & baseship (I'm still working on them)
Weapon platform (that too is still in the works)

Things that I need to finish off before I put the Borg up for download are the slot layout ( I have the slot mod tool so that won't take me long) and to reposition about half of the ships firing points...something that I find really annoying...though at least now I can do it quite quickly(1st ship took me about 2 hours!!)...So all in all I'll have it ready for tomorrow night Smiling...I hope!

now just one question...for the next version of the borg...anyone know where I can get some better textures for the ship models? (Edit: I ask this because if you zoom in on max zoom they go a bit blocky...so I think I need new textures)
Thxs in advance
Tak

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ColonialAdmiral's picture
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Re: Borg ship set almost ready!!

Submitted by ColonialAdmiral on Sat, 2007-04-28 17:16.

Yay new shipset!!!
That brings it to, I think 14?

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Re: Borg ship set almost ready!!

Submitted by Chen H on Sat, 2007-04-28 17:25.

Looks pretty sweet =)

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Re: Borg ship set almost ready!!

Submitted by ekolis on Sat, 2007-04-28 17:39.

Nice Laughing out loud

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Re: Borg ship set almost ready!!

Submitted by Qcontinuum on Sat, 2007-04-28 19:40.

Can't wait to use your ship set!!

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Re: Borg ship set almost ready!!

Submitted by TakAhLah on Sun, 2007-04-29 03:49.

Thxs guys. Just got up Smiling Going to start finishing it right now...well after I clean the house Sad

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Re: Borg ship set almost ready!!

Submitted by Rilo57 on Sun, 2007-04-29 10:42.

I love the whole idea of the borg race in SEV. Thanks for the work your putting in on this.

SEV, more than a feeling.

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Re: Borg ship set almost ready!!

Submitted by ColonialAdmiral on Sun, 2007-04-29 10:53.

It will go well with the other star trek races....

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Re: Borg ship set almost ready!!

Submitted by Thy Reaper on Sun, 2007-04-29 11:13.

I have been waiting for someone to make a Borg shipset for months now, can't wait for it to be finished. There's just something satisfying about going around pummeling the opponents' ships with the most powerful enemy in all of Star Trek.

The only concern I have that you haven't addressed is the size of the ships. A standard cube is should outsize a galaxy class by far. I know you can't actually go to that size, because that would bring them to a size similar to small planets, but perhaps you could scale them up at least a little?

Regardless, I will be downloading this when it's released Smiling

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Re: Borg ship set almost ready!!

Submitted by TakAhLah on Sun, 2007-04-29 12:15.

Its on the things to do list...slots are done btw...just finishing off resizing... as I do the firing points...You have a gd point...the problem being that its either make the cubes huge which doesn't work or resize the fed shipset which I can't do simply because its not my work. However I'll try my best!

Now to get back to those annoying firing points!...

and thxs for the feed back...keep it coming...any word on borg textures for the second version?

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Re: Borg ship set almost ready!!

Submitted by TakAhLah on Sun, 2007-04-29 17:05.

Ok so I missed myself set deadline...sorry guys...I'll just have to finish it off for tomorrow, maybe late for evening...as I have to go out to sort some papers.
As I said before...for the 1st version I just have to finish off 4 ships firing points and then retest them all...I'm getting to hate firing points!

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Re: Borg ship set almost ready!!

Submitted by Cyber_Tech on Mon, 2007-04-30 20:06.

I just downloaded and installed your ship set. It worked perfectly. I was expecting the Borgs for a while. That is a real good start, especially considering that this is your first modeling experience. Keep up your good work ! Smiling

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Re: Borg ship set almost ready!!

Submitted by ColonialAdmiral on Mon, 2007-04-30 20:12.

Hey any chance that you could give this to fyron for the downloads file at Spaceempires.net?

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Re: Borg ship set ready!!

Submitted by TakAhLah on Tue, 2007-05-01 03:06.

It is now up at spaceempires.net, download at your pleasure.

Thxs cyber_tech...I learnt alot doing it but I still have a lot to learn.

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Re: The Borg are ready!!

Submitted by TakAhLah on Tue, 2007-05-01 05:54.

Ok so the first version 0.1 is ready for download Smiling

I've sent it to spaceempires.net so they can put it up for download but for those of you who might not want to wait here is a link.
(Edit: I've removed the direct link as you can now download it at www.Spaceempires.net )

...and you'll need to put the "Borg" folder into your empires folder in SEV but you all knew that anyway didn't you Eye-wink

PM me here if you have any problems, improvments, ideas and so on...though please read the readme first though.

Have fun

Tak

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Re: Borg ship set ready!!

Submitted by TakAhLah on Tue, 2007-05-01 05:58.

How strange!! editing the post above has changed its position...it should be just above crazydogs post!

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Re: The Borg are ready!!

Submitted by SysOp on Tue, 2007-05-01 10:29.

You can also have your shipset hosted on our servers, which also allows bug tracking and feature requests.

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Re: Borg ship set ready!!

Submitted by Prankowski on Tue, 2007-05-01 11:40.

uhm, anybody else having problems reaching the spaceempires.net webpage?
i can reach the portal but can´t get through to the shipyard or the forum etc.

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Re: Borg ship set ready!!

Submitted by TakAhLah on Tue, 2007-05-01 13:01.

No, I could get to the download page with out problems...but don't worry...you can also download it here at SEV... http://www.spaceempires5.com/en-US/project/Borg

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Re: The Borg are ready!!

Submitted by Fyron on Tue, 2007-05-01 13:14.

SysOp wrote:
...which also allows bug tracking and feature requests.
That seems entirely pointless for a shipset.


SpaceEmpires.net | Space Empires Wiki

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Re: The Borg are ready!!

Submitted by SysOp on Tue, 2007-05-01 13:24.

This thread shows at least one such request..

Thy Reaper wrote:
The only concern I have that you haven't addressed is the size of the ships. A standard cube is should outsize a galaxy class by far. I know you can't actually go to that size, because that would bring them to a size similar to small planets, but perhaps you could scale them up at least a little?

The point of the projects system is mainly to encourage participation.. I'm not sure why people are so standoffish about using it. At the very least it's a place to host downloads for free with the bonus of a community to back it up. I mean really, what's so wrong about that?

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Re: Borg ship set ready!!

Submitted by WanderDaekar on Sun, 2007-05-06 13:46.

Prankowski wrote:
uhm, anybody else having problems reaching the spaceempires.net webpage? i can reach the portal but can´t get through to the shipyard or the forum etc.

It's an old front page from before SEV, I think. You have to expand it a little to get the site to http://www.spaceempires.net/home/index.html

That should work just fine. And this shipset is so facinating. Can't wait to see it over time with improved textures and size relation. Baseship really should be the full on cube from the series. Huge compared to the rest of the the Federation ships! Laughing out loud

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Re: Borg ship set ready!!

Submitted by TakAhLah on Sun, 2007-05-06 14:27.

We you might be pleased to here that I'd learnt to use lithunwrap properly so I can texture better now...I'd been doing it in a VERY botched way with the Borg so new textures might not be needed,but I'll have to do them again in the right way.

As for the second version...I'll put the finishing touches to it and post it mid tomorrow... It will contain a few fixes and the following new models...
Troop
Sat
Weapon platform

and if I take you idea, WanderDaekar...a base ship.

Portrates still need to be redone colony ship and freighter too...you'll also have to remember that the new version is still before I learnt to texture correctly so please bear that in mind...but I'm very happy because I'm learning lots Smiling...

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Re: Borg ship set ready!!

Submitted by Gideon on Sat, 2007-11-03 11:11.

So, the big question...

The one on everyone's mind...

The one that will determine the course of reality itself!!!

Okay...maybe not THAT important...but I'm dieing to know...

Do the cubes fly flat-side first, or edge-first?

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Re: Borg ship set ready!!

Submitted by apw2 on Wed, 2008-01-09 18:19.

I've noticed something slightly odd about this mod.
When playing as the borg, i have several fleets, 90% of the time they are all ok. But for some reason, maybe once every other turn one of the fleets will turn a funny colour. Imagine a tv set that can't get a picture, it has the horizontal black and white lines across it, well my borg cubes look like that, both on the big map and the smaller/battle map, they can be either white, red, green or purple (so far at least).

Any ideas why? I don't get why a fleet would be normal one turn and then fuzzy the next, just to go back to being normal again.

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Re: Borg ship set ready!!

Submitted by apw2 on Wed, 2008-01-09 18:20.

Sorry, accidentally posted that twice.

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Re: Borg ship set ready!!

Submitted by groovyfishguy on Thu, 2008-01-10 12:15.

Gideon wrote:
So, the big question...

The one on everyone's mind...

The one that will determine the course of reality itself!!!

Okay...maybe not THAT important...but I'm dieing to know...

Do the cubes fly flat-side first, or edge-first?

"Only by being constantly at war with evil in all things, including yourself, can you truely know peace."
Download my mod here: GidMod

Who knows? But I'm Pretty sure they fly upside down....

Groovy Baby Yeah!

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Re: Borg ship set ready!!

Submitted by Henk Brouwer on Thu, 2008-01-10 12:23.

The question is, what is up, and what is down in space?

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Re: Borg ship set ready!!

Submitted by TakAhLah on Sat, 2008-01-12 07:19.

Quote:
I've noticed something slightly odd about this mod. When playing as the borg, i have several fleets, 90% of the time they are all ok. But for some reason, maybe once every other turn one of the fleets will turn a funny colour. Imagine a tv set that can't get a picture, it has the horizontal black and white lines across it, well my borg cubes look like that, both on the big map and the smaller/battle map, they can be either white, red, green or purple (so far at least).

Any ideas why? I don't get why a fleet would be normal one turn and then fuzzy the next, just to go back to being normal again.

Yes I know about this problem and when I finally finish the next version of this ship set it will be fixed. It comes from the fact that I used the SEV command line to force textures on the models and though this works most of the time it does sometimes fail to apply the texture correctly. I did the textures that way because at the time I did not know another way of doing them...I have since learnt to do it properly.

You may also notice that if you change systems and then come back to the system where your fleet was, the textures should then be correctly coloured.

I hope to get the next version out soon, but I am afraid that real life is always getting in the way so my free time is scarse these days.

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Re: Borg ship set ready!!

Submitted by apw2 on Sun, 2008-01-13 12:04.

Ah ok, skins look good anyway. I'm intrigued as to how the stabases are going to look like, they looked like a jumble yard in the tv programmes!

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Re: Borg ship set ready!!

Submitted by SpaceLover on Tue, 2008-06-17 02:28.

I got a question, if I add this to my SE5 folder, can this cause any major damage to my game or is it like a bonus content? exp: downloading custom maps on warcraft 3

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Re: Borg ship set ready!!

Submitted by Myrath on Tue, 2008-06-17 03:52.

You could consider is bonus content.

An AI can pick this race too though. And if the AI script is broken then the borg won't pose much challenge.
But if you just add it to your races folder, there should not be any problems.

It's also a seperate folder you use; Each shipset has it's own folder.
So you can always easily throw it off if you dont want it .

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Note: If you want to use a shipset with a mod, such as the balance mod, then you will also have to add the shipset to the balance mod folder. Note that the balance mod Ai is different from standard AI, and that you will have problems there for sure if the AI decides to pick your shipset.

But in multiplayer everything works smoothly.

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Re: Borg ship set ready!!

Submitted by BlueTemplar on Wed, 2008-06-18 14:12.

I think that if you use this shipset yourself, the AI won't think of picking it - so you can put it in the BM folder, as long as when it's there you're always using it. Anyone can confirm that?

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Re: Borg ship set ready!!

Submitted by marhawkman on Wed, 2008-06-18 23:11.

You could always copy the AI settings of an existing race, and simply toss in new ship models.

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Re: Borg ship set ready!!

Submitted by BlueTemplar on Thu, 2008-06-19 00:25.

Might not work so well when different races AI's are customised to best fit that particular race...

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Re: Borg ship set ready!!

Submitted by marhawkman on Thu, 2008-06-19 03:48.

I don't see a problem if the shipset is the only difference.

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Re: Borg ship set ready!!

Submitted by crazydog on Thu, 2008-06-19 07:02.

5. Adding Custom Races to the Mod:
-----------------------------------

If you've downloaded a new shipset and would like to use in the Balance Mod, follow the steps
below:

1. Create a folder in the Balance Mod's Empires folder with the same name as the Race's default folder - it
is important to use the exact same name so the game will now where the pictures and models are
2. Copy the race's [Race Name]_AI_main.txt file into that folder
3. Edit the following lines in [Race Name]_AI_main.txt:

From:
AI Script File := [Race Name]\[Race Name]_Main_Script.csf
AI Script Empire Setup File := [Race Name]\[Race Name]_Setup_Script.csf

To one of the following default scripts:
AI Script File := Default\Default_Moderate_Main_Script.csf
AI Script Empire Setup File := Default\Default_Moderate_Setup_Script.csf

AI Script File := Default\Default_Defensive_Main_Script.csf
AI Script Empire Setup File := Default\Default_Defensive_Setup_Script.csf

AI Script File := Default\Default_Aggressive_Main_Script.csf
AI Script Empire Setup File := Default\Default_Aggressive_Setup_Script.csf

This will tell the AI to use the Balance Mod's default AI files with the ship set, making sure it works
properly with the mod.

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Re: Borg ship set ready!!

Submitted by marhawkman on Thu, 2008-06-19 07:14.

Hmm... Maybe that's the problem I was having with my ships set I posted about just below this one. Eye-wink

thanks! Smiling

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