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Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

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Submitted by Captain Kwok on Thu, 2007-04-26 23:12. SE:V MODs

Greetings!

I've posted v1.06 of the Balance Mod. Not too many changes in terms of data files, but lots of AI improvements including management of mixed populations, scrapping facilities to add modifier facilities, and lots of little changes to the AI's ministers in general. You'll have to start a new game if you want the AI to function properly with the new ministers.

Balance Mod Webpage: http://www.captainkwok.net/balancemod.php

I've included instructions in the readme.txt for players to incorporate the latest versions of FQM that require the Multimedia Pack.

There's also an updated tech chart for v1.06 on the Balance Mod page.

Version 1.06 (27 April 2007)
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1.  Fixed   - Error in cost for Supply Storage components
2.  Fixed   - Error in amount for Advanced Storage Techniques racial trait
3.  Changed - Reduced Hardy Industrialists trait to 20% bonus
4.  Changed - Increased effect amounts for most Cultural Achievements
5.  Changed - Small Graviton Beam can now be used with Troops
6.  Changed - Reduced the effect of troops on happiness
7.  Fixed   - Error in requirements for Organic Heavy Carrier
8.  Changed - Reduced Remote Mining component tech level requirements slightly
9.  Fixed   - Error in tech level requirements for Alloy Burner Missile
10. Changed - Slight adjustment to tech level requirements for Weapon Phase Accelerator
11. Added   - New AI Minister to manage populations (ruthlessly)
12. Added   - New AI Minister to optimize colony production
13. Changed - AI Minister for Vehicle Construction split into ship and unit Ministers
14. Changed - Tweaked effect amounts and costs for Intel Projects
15. Changed - Improved default strategy choices for AI design types
16. Updated - AI Scripts

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TakAhLah's picture
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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by TakAhLah on Fri, 2007-04-27 05:15.

Very nice...I'll download this tonight and be playing it for like 5 full days...on hols till Thursday...I wish...bet my wife wont let me Eye-wink

Thxs Cap...great work!

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by crazydog on Fri, 2007-04-27 07:00.

So far, work VERY WELL.

And have updated it to FQM 5.10, no problems also.

Waiting for 1.34, 1.35, etc

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by ColonialAdmiral on Fri, 2007-04-27 07:35.

Well good work kwok. Unfortunatly I'll probably have to wait till 1.07. I've just got to many games now running on 1.05...

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by crazydog on Fri, 2007-04-27 11:15.

Ok, After several turns (the only thing that slow it is the memory leak...... GRRRRRRRRRR), it works better thank 1.05 and the separation of ship / unit minister is a godsend.

I like to build / manage mi ships, and don't care for units (but want they build Smiling ), and right now it works very well, let you decide if want to micromanage or not that area.

For me, is a plus.

BTW, a small plea.:

Don't let the AI to sell you so easily the Techs of ROCK/ICE/GAS, it is a no fun way to 'negotiate' with the 'AI'.

What is the

scrap minister: 1 cargo items were scraped from pppp for xxx,yyy,zzz.

In that case, no ship, facility or unit is apparently scrapped in that planet.

And this happens several times a turn, almost every turn.....

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Captain Kwok's picture
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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Captain Kwok on Fri, 2007-04-27 11:28.

Look at the cost of the item - if it's in the hundreds of resources it's likely an obsolete unit being scrapped in cargo.

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by crazydog on Fri, 2007-04-27 11:39.

Problem is.......

Is model MK I in all units.........

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Captain Kwok on Fri, 2007-04-27 11:44.

Is the design marked as obsolete? If yes, make it non-obsolete and the minister should stop scrapping them. Only obsolete WPs and Sats in cargo are scrapped as well...

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by crazydog on Fri, 2007-04-27 14:45.

No obsolete......

Is one of the mysteries of the mod

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by crazydog on Sun, 2007-04-29 04:42.

Is possible to put info about what is scrapped in the scrap minister report ?

Like

scrap minister: 1 cargo items (2 WP, 3 SAT) were scraped from pppp for xxx,yyy,zzz.

That help to know what is running in the background....

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by evilginger on Sun, 2007-04-29 06:58.

Second that its always worring when you see a vague report from a minister and it would help debug if what they where up to could be visiable

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Brad on Sun, 2007-04-29 15:34.

Hey Captain are those small flags in your mod copyright? I mean, can I shamelessly steal them to put into my own mod?

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Captain Kwok on Mon, 2007-04-30 07:48.

I don't see any harm in including them in your mod - just check the BM readme.txt for the proper credits.

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by crazydog on Mon, 2007-04-30 11:04.

Question..: If i put the build vehicles minister off and the units on, what the base yards / shipyards do in auto ?

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Captain Kwok on Mon, 2007-04-30 12:23.

The Construction - Units minister will use whatever resources you don't spend on ships for units if there is demand for them.

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by crazydog on Mon, 2007-04-30 13:44.

I find a problem.....

If i don't build ships / bases (minister is off, player must do the thing), the AI don't build units (minister is on).......

If i build ships/bases, minister start building units.....

Is not logical.. i don't need to build ships for the 'other' minister to build units (i think) it defeat the purpose of separating....

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Captain Kwok on Mon, 2007-04-30 14:11.

How much are you spending on ship resources out of your total resources? Typically 70-75% of the collected resources are alloted for ship/unit construction. If you're spending more than this, no units will be added to the queue. Two other reasons why no units are being added might include there is no demand for them (ie you have more than the scripts call for) or there is an error trying to add units to a particular queue.

The ministers should be working separately though.

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by crazydog on Mon, 2007-04-30 14:26.

I'm not building ships in the last 10 turns. And on theses turns the ministers don't build units.

Also, the new planets that i colonized, don't get WP nor sats....

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Dkanre on Mon, 2007-04-30 15:52.

In my present game, some empires are doubled and some have started with no facilities. Is this a 1.06 bug?

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by ColonialAdmiral on Mon, 2007-04-30 16:34.

I think there is a mod for just changing the small flags over at the shrpnell forums...

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by crazydog on Mon, 2007-04-30 17:40.

I design in the same turn 2 med fighters (one energy, other missile).

Only one of then is build by the minister.

Why ?

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Captain Kwok on Mon, 2007-04-30 22:20.

crazydog:
The AI is only set up to handle 1 design per design type designation. I'll be adding some more design types in v1.07 for situations as you describe. I'll run a few tests with the ministers to double check if they are actually working as intended for construction as well.

Dkanre:
Can you provide some more details such as how many races are in the game and if you are using any custom sets?

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by crazydog on Tue, 2007-05-01 03:02.

If i change the DesignTypes.txt, adding the design names that i want (fighter-bomber, tactical-fighter, etc), it work until 1.07 ?

Also, it can affect (add the names) a game already started ?

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by BlueTemplar on Tue, 2007-05-01 05:46.

- If I upgrade a 1.05 game to 1.06, will all the balancing changes be applied, or I have to start a new game?
- When will PBW be upgraded to 1.06? Who usually updates it - you, the PBW admins or one of the players? What version will be on PBW - the one with or without FQM? Can you have FQM not installed on PBW, and play a PBW game with BM with FQM installed on your computer?

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Captain Kwok on Tue, 2007-05-01 06:39.

crazydog:
I don't think the AI will know what to do with those design types. It is only able to convert blank design types to its design types.

BlueTemplar:
Unfortunately the changes to AI ministers requires a new game to be started for the AI to work properly. Otherwise it's completely compatible with v1.05. The PBW admins will upload v1.06 when they get the chance. There is only 1 version of the mod, but if someone wanted a version of the mod with FQM beta 10 (the one that requires the Multimedia download for new planet textures) than it would not be PBW compatible with the normal BM install.

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Dkanre on Tue, 2007-05-01 12:14.

There are no custom shipsets and 18 other empires, with only four being neutral empires.

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Captain Kwok on Tue, 2007-05-01 13:01.

Can you send me the save game so I can investigate? capt-kwok at rogers dot com.

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Dkanre on Tue, 2007-05-01 13:21.

Sure

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by It Depends on Mon, 2007-05-07 12:23.

Hey Kwok (& Fyodor) ... 1st off, I'm enjoying the mod greatly ... but I am having a problem.

With a map set on the largest size, when I process a turn (cmd line or GUI) i get a 'DirectDraw out of memory error'. It specifically blames skyboxemptyspace.bmp, although I;m not sure if that is just the straw that broke the camel's back or not.

Now I'm betting that this might be because of the inclusion FQM in your mod. I re-saved that problematic bmp with IrfanView, though it didn't fix it. My next guess would be to re-save all the bmps using that program to strip the photoshop headers out ... but that doesn't sound like much fun.

I am wondering which version you used. I notice that there is a new FQM version, which wishes the inclusion of the Multimedia Pack. Which version of the FQM is in the 1.06 Balance Mod? Would installing/copying new versions bmps into the existing 1.06 mod work? Will the mysterious Multimedia Pack help? Am I just playing with too big a map? Will you fetch me a shrubbery?

Thanks.

CPU: XP 2500+
Mainboard: A7N-8X Deluxe Rev 2.0
Mem: 1 GB Samsung DDR400 - 2*256 & 1*512 Dual Channel
Video: eVGA GeForce 6800GS CO Edition
OS: WinXP SP2
Page file: 3056MBs
all directX tests passed easily

... even so, I'm still loving the game.

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Captain Kwok on Mon, 2007-05-07 13:00.

I don't think this error is related to the .bmp header error, which produces a "stream error" as opposed to the error you mentioned. I'd try just deleting the skybox image that I included and see if that makes a difference.

The Balance Mod uses FQM beta version 8, which is more or less the same as the current version minus the updated planet textures.

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by crazydog on Mon, 2007-05-07 13:40.

It happens also if you use FQM 10 with bm 1.06 .....

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by It Depends on Mon, 2007-05-07 14:17.

Thanx ... I'm doing my wage slave impression right now, but I will test that out tonight and let you know.

... even so, I'm still loving the game.

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by It Depends on Tue, 2007-05-08 11:26.

I got distracted last night and didn't end up with much time to test. I deleted the bitmap, processed the turn and had the same DirectDraw error, except this time with the default bmp instead of the one in the mod.

... even so, I'm still loving the game.

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Captain Kwok on Tue, 2007-05-08 12:12.

Ok. Can you identify anything that is common in the systems that produce the error?

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by It Depends on Tue, 2007-05-08 13:32.

Sorry, don't quite get that. Systems?

... even so, I'm still loving the game.

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Captain Kwok on Tue, 2007-05-08 14:32.

Nevermind. I had crossed your post with another one re: the stream error that someone posted elsewhere.

Do you noticed if you're RAM is filled when this error occurs? Or does it only occur after you play a certain number of turns etc.?

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by It Depends on Tue, 2007-05-08 20:59.

Auughhh! I hate intermittent errors.

This time it processed fine, memory usage never topped 600Mb for either RAM or pagefile. It's a PBM game, so it'll be a bit before the next turn can be processed, but I will monitor the memory usage again.

Thanks for the help so far.

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Mith on Wed, 2007-05-09 11:25.

Hey, great mod. I just d/led SEV from steam a couple days ago and felt like the game was good, but needed a few tweaks to be great--luckily, you agreed and tweaked what I would have.

That said, I think I found a few bugs with your mod.

First, organic armor seems to be a tad bit bugged. I have a game right now where I am playing an organic ship race. It is a very intense game and I'm fighting a war on two fronts. Anyway, I have organic small satellites deployed on my end of all warp points leading into my systems. I have noticed that these satellites are almost impossible to kill? Why?

Well, there are two bugs. First let's deal with the regeneration itself. Whenever my satellites are near death and all organic armor has been depleted, they start taking damage to their hull structure (as is normal), however, once this happens the regeneration skyrockets. Literally, in 2 secs I can go from no armor to 100% once the hull has been breached. The hull structure then starts flying in the negative value direction. What i mean is, it is not uncommon to see my satellites with -200 life, yes negative two hundred (even if their max structure is around 100).

The other bug with this is that the ships firing on this satellites believe it is no longer a threat since they have damaged it halfway (and the ai swaps to a more dangerous target w/ guns). So, this makes my satellits nearly unkillable. When they're almost dead not only do they have insane regeneration, but the enemies swap targets off of them, giving them a free pass.
*I can include a game save if you'd like*.

The other thing I have noticed (which isn't really a bug--more of an ai thing) is that the AI is completely oblivious to the value of fleeting ships. At the same sectors where I have my satellits guarding warp gates, I notice that I must fight ten battles a turn where the ai sends one stupid ship through the warp gate to be torn up by my bases, ships, and satellites waiting. Maybe one in 30 battles is there more than one ship, and when they do send multiples, they actually destroy half the defenders, or more. If this was regular, i couldnt lock down the warp gates.

I was going to complain that the ai doesnt try to lockdown warp gates, but I started noticing they are now that i'm in the 10th year of the game.

Next, this may or may not be a bug, but the game I'm playing in right now is against 9 ai, NONE OF WHICH HAVE -ANY- INTELLIGENCE. I believe the reason my *hard* game right now is so easy is because my intelligence is sucking their resources dry, but this is only possible because none of the ai have any intelligence what so ever.

Finally, the game I am playing in is toooo easy. I am playing on hard, but it seems like a pushover as far as my ability to control the game (which i blame on intelligence). I am not able to go planet to planet conquering or killing, but there's no question i am going to win. And I would if all 9 players attacked me. The ai doesnt seem to understand the value of ground invasions or the use of troops. I often drop 80-100+ ground troops on a planet and not once have i encountered more than 5 enemy ground troops. They're so cheap to build and so effective at thwarting attacks, but the ai rather build ships and send them through the warp gate one at a time:(

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Psieye on Wed, 2007-05-09 13:22.

I can say one thing immediately: Anything less than easy just switches off certain scripts of the AI, so we always always play on Hard. AI bonus is how you affect "difficulty" (faster construction, extra resource/research/intel) - I'd even argue going to Settings.txt and customising just how much of a bonus "High AI Bonus" really means (why not try x10 instead of the default x4 point generation?). Note that the extra points (resources/research/intel) won't show up on the Score comparison screen, but they are applied.

Since this is BM, I also suggest you try "Team Mode" which allies all the AI against you, the human. Not all mods (ok, I only know of BM and IRM) have Team Mode ready but BM does. I may recommend you switch off Intel if you do this and give a custom High AI bonus (repeat: go to Settings.txt), unless you want to learn that the AI is capable of destroying you as you destroyed them with Intel.

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by crazydog on Wed, 2007-05-09 13:42.

In the upcoming 1.07 is possible to add the following control.:

The Colony ships that are damaged and can't colonize because of that, clear orders of colonize and go to nearest repair yard ?

Right now, they don't know that and try and try and try.....

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Captain Kwok on Wed, 2007-05-09 13:56.

There's a lot of items to respond to:

Organic Armor:
Hmm. Certainly seems like an extension of a bug that was eliminated in v1.25, where dead armor was contributing its abilities to the vehicle.

The AI usually fleets 80% or more of their ships together. There is a rare bug in the mod with disbanding fleets causing ships to be unfleeted more often. Is there a particular type of ship that keeps trying to pass through?

Depending on the size of the galaxy and the number of AI, there's sometimes a lack of more specialized colony types, like Intel. I'll try and address this with the next update.

I find most of my AI test games that they'll accumulated about 30 or so troops per planet along with some weapons platforms. Unfortunately, the custom militia settings are not being used, which would certainly add a lot more defenders.

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Captain Kwok on Wed, 2007-05-09 14:34.

I expected the patch to be posted on Friday so I don't quite have the next BM update ready yet. I have some time tonight to work on it, but probably won't be able to post it until tomorrow or Friday.

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Chen H on Wed, 2007-05-09 14:36.

Lol seems like Aaron has a tendancy to release it earlier than you expect Captain Kwok.

But anyways, keep up the great work with your patch, it really makes my PBW games fun.

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by crazydog on Wed, 2007-05-09 14:45.

Cap, what we can expect for 1.07 ?

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Captain Kwok on Wed, 2007-05-09 15:07.

I've been working on improving the AI's ship designs for v1.07, along with adding support for more design types. Besides that, just a few tweaks and fixes in the files and scripts.

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by It Depends on Wed, 2007-05-09 23:10.

Haven't patched to the new SEV yet but ....

processing turn for 1/2 hour with cmdline. CPU usage is at 100%, physical memory never topped 413Mgs (even with firefox on this page) and page file never tops 566MBs.

The second I switch to the minimized process turn window I get the error, CPU down to 4% and no change on either memory usage.

... no love from the GUI either

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by BlueTemplar on Fri, 2007-05-11 04:09.

Could you please up the maximum intel attacks per turn from 5 too at least 100? Because right now when the defendig player reaches more than 25k defensive intel points (with the defensive bonuses and maluses), there is no more point in trying to get him with Sabotage - Ships & Fleets or Espionage - Planets & Colonies, and most of the intel projects become useless when he reaches 50k. (Or maybe I misunderstood how intel works?)

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Captain Kwok on Fri, 2007-05-11 06:34.

There is no limit to the number of intel projects except by what points you can spend. Also note defending points are depleted when blocking projects, so it's possible to get projects through in the old system in the situations you describe - but will usually require a concentrated effort between allies etc.

The revised system for v1.07 will be leaky, so there's always a chance that a project will succeed even if the target has a superior amount of intel defense. The base equation for success will be:

Success Rate = Attack Pts / (Attack Pts + Defense Pts + Project Cost)

I have also decreased the cost for most projects in the mod, as the costs were probably too high when considering the need to spread your intel points across several players and for defense as well.

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by BlueTemplar on Fri, 2007-05-11 11:02.

Quote:
There is no limit to the number of intel projects except by what points you can spend.

Oh? I'll have to run some tests again... I wonder why I was sure they were limited to 5 per turn...

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Qcontinuum on Fri, 2007-05-11 11:10.

I like this idea for intel.

Just to make sure I understand it correctly:

Attack points = Sum of points the attacking empire spends alltogether on attacking intel projects?
Defense points = Sum of points the defending empire has for defense?

How many defense points are depleted if the blocking is successful?
Are any defense points depleted if the defense fails?
Is there a way for the player to see how many intel points for defense have accumulated for his own empire?

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Psieye on Fri, 2007-05-11 11:20.

Actually that reminds me: Defence points could accumulate according to an earlier post. This leaky system would ensure we'd still have a chance even in those situations, but is there some check to prevent it being massively unfair if an empire happened to be in isolation for 50 turns and thus had a vast stockpile of accumulated Defence points? Somewhere I read of the suggestion to have "Defence Intel point decay" such that ultimately, you couldn't store more than 10 turns' worth of Intel at any one time.

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Captain Kwok on Fri, 2007-05-11 11:26.

Attack Points = Pct of intel points against a specific empire
Defense Points = Pct of intel points used for defense

The project cost is always deducted from both the attack and defense regardless if the intel project succeeds or is blocked.

There is no accumulation of points.

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Qcontinuum on Fri, 2007-05-11 11:50.

As I said I like the idea.
But if there is no accumulation of defense intel points the defense might turn out too leaky with your formula especially for cheaper intel projects.

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Psieye on Fri, 2007-05-11 12:16.

Quote:
But if there is no accumulation of defense intel points the defense might turn out too leaky with your formula especially for cheaper intel projects.
That is just a matter of adding a constant or such somewhere in the formula (do note that the max possible chance of success is 50% - just ensure cheap projects aren't powerful). The idea itself is viable, maybe with some small details needing to be ironed out with player-testing.

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Myrath on Sat, 2007-05-12 03:18.

Is 106 compatible with 1.35? Or do we need to wait for 1.07 (and wait with our PBW games aswell for 107?)

~Myrath

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Captain Kwok on Sat, 2007-05-12 08:52.

v1.06 is compatible with SE:V v1.35.

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Qcontinuum on Sun, 2007-05-13 01:42.

Kwok are you sure that there is no accumulation of defensive intel points?

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Nevyn on Sun, 2007-05-13 03:58.

Dunno about the mod, but I know in stock the Intel points accumulate.

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by BlueTemplar on Sun, 2007-05-13 05:10.

I think he was talking about the accumulation of offensive intel points...

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Captain Kwok on Sun, 2007-05-13 06:17.

Actually, points accumulate on both sides. It's not displayed that way, but my script logs show both attack and defense points accumulating.

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Qcontinuum on Sun, 2007-05-13 06:22.

Captain Kwok wrote:
Actually, points accumulate on both sides. It's not displayed that way, but my script logs show both attack and defense points accumulating.

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That corresponds to my observations.

What is really strange however that you can't see as a player how many accumulated defensive intel points you have. May be not a bug but certainly something that shoud be added IMO.

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by BlueTemplar on Sun, 2007-05-13 07:10.

But you said previously:

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Note that intel in SE:V doesn't carry over project points. So an Empire with 20,000 IPs can't wait 5 turns to execute a Planet Rebellion project that costs 100,000 IPs. You'll have to push a lot of points into attack against a particular empire in order to launch such an ambitious project.

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There is no accumulation of points.

I'm confused... Or did you mean that since in Sabotage: Planets and Colonies there are projects that cost less than 100k, if you have less than 100k in attack, this project will never get "selected"? But points will still accumulate until you can afford to launch the cheapest project?

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Captain Kwok on Sun, 2007-05-13 19:57.

More or less like you said. If you can't afford to launch any projects in your focus area for a turn, those attack points will carry over to the next turn. If you don't use all your defense points in a turn, the unused amount will carry over to the next as well. As soon as you can afford some cheap projects, they'll be picked and deplete your accumulated attack points... and you would still need more or less to dedicate the 50,000+ points for an expensive project in one turn.

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by kirk on Mon, 2007-05-14 08:29.

Kwok

Can you look at Pys ship expeience bonus facility and make sure its working as you intended, im finding its pushing out stupifing amounts of experience per turn to all ships in system.

On a realted note, ive found adding 4/6 more storms per system does not impact on perforemce on my rig, and vastly mpoves visual and game play expeience, do you consider doing something in BM to be a an advantage?.

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by BlueTemplar on Mon, 2007-05-14 12:59.

Here some ideas to make fighter upgrades more interesting, and make fighters a little bit less powerful:

http://spaceempires5.com/en-US/node/3290#comment-21340

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by magogian on Tue, 2007-05-15 12:19.

Question: If I have already started a BM 1.06 game on the 1.33 patch, then updated to 1.35. Do I have to re-install BM 1.06?

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Captain Kwok on Tue, 2007-05-15 12:26.

No. There's no issues going from v1.33 to v1.35 with the mod.

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Kcissem on Wed, 2007-05-16 05:27.

Captain Kwok wrote:
No. There's no issues going from v1.33 to v1.35 with the mod.

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question for you captain kwok in your bm mod does the ai use steller manipulation correctly yet? I'd much rather play without warp points if so.

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Captain Kwok on Wed, 2007-05-16 06:11.

There are no script functions available yet to give stellar manipulation orders for the AI. When those are added, then it'll be possible to let the AI do something with them.

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Qcontinuum on Wed, 2007-05-16 06:24.

Captain Kwok wrote:
There are no script functions available yet to give stellar manipulation orders for the AI. When those are added, then it'll be possible to let the AI do something with them.

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I am speechless. Granted in SE IV the AI was weak using stellar manipulation, but at least it was possible. This is very disappointing

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Captain Kwok on Wed, 2007-05-16 15:25.

Does it comfort you to know that there is no way yet to order AI ships to cloak? Sticking out tongue

I thought MM would add these sooner, but it looks like some more prodding needs to be done.

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Setekh on Wed, 2007-05-23 02:06.

Hi Captain Kwok, I REALLY love the way the game plays with the BM installed, it is infinitely superior to the stock game however I really don't like some of the graphical changes in the FQM mod that you've incorporated into recent versions of BM.

Is there a version of BM without this, or are you planning on releasing future versions without it?

Many thanks.

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Fyron on Wed, 2007-05-23 03:13.

I don't forsee Kwok removing FQM at any point..


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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by javaslinger on Wed, 2007-05-23 07:05.

FQM Rules!!

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Captain Kwok on Wed, 2007-05-23 11:16.

What FQM elements do you not like? Some of them can be removed easily.

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Re: Balance Mod v1.06 Available!

Submitted by Setekh on Wed, 2007-05-23 17:24.

I have contacted Fyron and he has given me instructions on how to remove the planet glows, thanks for your replies.

Keep up the good work on the BM Kwok.

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