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Task Force/Ship Strategies and the Seperation of Fleets

Submitted by magogian on Fri, 2007-04-13 14:08. Space Empires V General

Okay, so I create a fleet with a carrier and frigates, etc. In the fleet, I have two task forces. The first consists entirely of battle line ships (engage the enemy with beams, etc.). The second task force contains a carrier and a few escort ships. The carrier task force is set use attack with fighters strategy. However, in battles, once the carrier launches all of its fighters, it (and usually its task force) just retreats. So after each battle, the carrier task force has moved away and I have to manually create and join the task forces to create a new fleet. It makes it very annoying to use fleets.

What are the ways to get around this. Basically, I don't want the carrier to get within beam range, but I don't want it retreating either. Any ideas?

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Re: Task Force/Ship Strategies and the Seperation of Fleets

Submitted by jkrax on Fri, 2007-04-13 14:13.

Maybe using the Dont Get Hurt Strategy could help. I dont trust the IA of mi ships so in cases like these I prefer to manually order the ships to stay at a given point until the battle is over.

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Re: Task Force/Ship Strategies and the Seperation of Fleets

Submitted by magogian on Sat, 2007-04-14 09:57.

I like to use the automatic (strategic) button sometimes, so I'm then not able to manually direct them. I'll try the don't get hurt strat, but I think that is what the ships themselves are set to.

Btw, can anyone explain the interaction between the strats set for indivdiual ships and when the ship is put into a task force that has a strat as well?

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Re: Task Force/Ship Strategies and the Seperation of Fleets

Submitted by BlueTemplar on Sat, 2007-04-14 17:04.

I think individual ships use their own strategy only if they break from the task force.

Changing retreat from "flee" to "stay near combat ships" might work...

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Re: Task Force/Ship Strategies and the Seperation of Fleets

Submitted by jkrax on Sat, 2007-04-14 18:32.

Yup, individual ships only use their own strategy when separated from the main force. Thats why Fleets and Task Forces arent very usefull early in the game.

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Re: Task Force/Ship Strategies and the Seperation of Fleets

Submitted by jdunson on Fri, 2007-04-20 11:50.

jkrax wrote:
Yup, individual ships only use their own strategy when separated from the main force. Thats why Fleets and Task Forces arent very usefull early in the game.

I use this deliberately, even in the early game. The ship strategy for each class is set to what I want them to do if they're on their own, surprised, etc. I then use task force strategy to override that when I have a specific mission in mind.

For instance, in the latter part of the early game in a lower-starting-tech universe, my moderately armed scout designs are set to "Don't get hurt". They've got a reasonable chance of fleeing and surviving, and by default forging onward deeper into what is now clearly enemy space to return intel on the enemy's planets, fleet disposition, etc. is more important than any single combat.

However, sometimes I might want them to hold a forward warp point to prevent enemy colony ships and even more lightly armed scouts from establishing a foothold while I get more useful ships to the scene; so I'll create a "fleet" of one around the scout and give it task force orders to attack.

Slightly later on, those same ships may not have offensive weapons useful in a real battle, but they still can provide extra point defense, so they're likely to get added in to the Planetary Assault task force to provide some more cover for the troop transports. By then, they're almost certain to loose against real military forces if surprised while alone, but if I can waste a few enemy movement points chasing them down, that's worth it.

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