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Question on Happiness

Submitted by Rhino 1 on Sat, 2007-03-03 14:29. Space Empires IV General

It seems no matter what my settings sooner or later my empire grows angry and riots system wide. I guess I am a poor leader somehow.

Even when I chose artisans as a setting this happens.

It only happens when I am in a winning format and have grown quite large. It does not seem to help to build urban pacification, land troops, win wars, and make treaties. These are what I have tried to date with out success.

Any help would be appreciated, since this is a horrible to loose to the AI when you were doing so well. I must be missing something.

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Re: Question on Happiness

Submitted by evilginger on Sun, 2007-03-04 13:21.

Try creating an emotionless race it stops all issues with low happiness it does have the side effect of you not getting bonuses for high happiness but it stops the system wide riots.

Other things which help

1 defend each planet as well as possible before people get unhappy troops fighters mine fields and weapon platforms as a minimum
2 build urban pacification facilities in advance of riots as they work better as a preventative
3 keep your enemies out of star systems and beat them if they do get in
4 don’t expand too fast
5 get as many cultural achievements as these seem to make your citizens happier and sociology stops people getting unhappy from being at war
6 play a naturally happy race

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Re: Question on Happiness

Submitted by Rhino 1 on Sun, 2007-03-04 19:35.

Thank you very much Evilginger. Your points seem like just what I have been needing. I believe I have been perhaps expanding too fast as well as waiting untill they are unhappy to take steps.

I am going to give these ideas a try and see how much improvement I get.

Thanks again

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Re: Question on Happiness

Submitted by capnq on Tue, 2007-03-06 19:50.

Another thing to be careful of is your choice of happiness type. A "bloodthirsty" race is harder to keep happy, and a (really poorly named) "neutral" race is /really/ hard to please. There's a reason all the stock AIs are "peaceful", regardless of how aggressive or xenophobic they are.

"Good morning, Pooh Bear," said Eeyore gloomily. "If it /is/ a good morning," he said. "Which I doubt," said he.

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Re: Question on Happiness

Submitted by Rhino 1 on Sun, 2007-03-18 11:53.

Thanks to all that helped. I am now playing as peaceful artisans and it seems to be working great.

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Re: Question on Happiness

Submitted by BlueTemplar on Thu, 2007-04-12 04:00.

-How do you choose an happiness type?

-In happiness.txt :
Our Troops on Planet := -2
Is it anger decrease PER troop? Or do you have to have a certain number of them?

EDIT: Found the answer: It's -2% anger per turn for every 10 troops.

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Re: Question on Happiness

Submitted by capnq on Thu, 2007-04-12 12:56.

BlueTemplar wrote:
-How do you choose an happiness type?
It's one of the choices on one of the tabs when you create the race (I forget which tab ATM). Each option has a non-exhaustive list of some of things that make your race happy or angry.

"Good morning, Pooh Bear," said Eeyore gloomily. "If it /is/ a good morning," he said. "Which I doubt," said he.

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Re: Question on Happiness

Submitted by BlueTemplar on Thu, 2007-04-12 13:13.

There is nothing like that when you create the race (apart form minister Agressive/Moderate/Defensive but that's not it). I think this existed in a previous version of the game, then got scrapped for some reason... so now every empire created is peaceful? Or is it linked to your governement and society choices?

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Re: Question on Happiness

Submitted by capnq on Fri, 2007-04-13 08:06.

BlueTemplar wrote:
There is nothing like that when you create the race
It's the last field on the Description tab, clearly labeled "Happiness Type", and the only choice on that tab that has any in-game effect. It defaults to "Peaceful".

"Good morning, Pooh Bear," said Eeyore gloomily. "If it /is/ a good morning," he said. "Which I doubt," said he.

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Re: Question on Happiness

Submitted by BlueTemplar on Sat, 2007-04-14 16:29.

Woops, my bad... I thought we were talking about Space Empires 5.

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