Treaties (non-aggression pact)???

Never in SEV judge had a treaty by its title always read it before agreeing to it. This is especially the case if you have played SEIV as it’s easy to assume that all treaties offered are an unmitigated good.

YEAH, READ THE TREATY..

Most offers include something you just can't abide with. Like "No bombarding planets" or "Can't conduct research." It's very hard to kill those bug-eyed slimy aliens (everyone knows scales are better) if YOU can't throw rocks at them. And just because your treaty says you can't throw rocks doesn't mean they can't throw them.

Death, destruction, mayhem and confusion. Another perfect day.

I have had some computer empires that accepted my one sided treaties but I didn't get to play long enough to see how they worked out.

you can usually negotiate treaties, if hte AI offers you one you don't like, send a reply with an edited version of the treaty, if you don;t change it that much they usually except, but sometimes it takes a few goes!

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I'm not suffering from insanity, i'm enjoying every minute of it!

Do no interfere in the affairs of Dragons, because you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

Unless they really don't like you. Then you could offer them the moon and stars, and they will still say you need to learn some respect.

And sometimes, no matter who's moon and stars you offer, they'll not accept. I have a tough time getting the AI to accept offers, even when I offer up something that will hinder me but benefit the AI.

The question still remians, " Why does the AI never really accept a decent proposal?"

The answer to which seems to be that the AI dosent know what a good offer is. Or just turns you down because its you thats making the offer

I think it's just me.... But if I have a fleet of 100 ships hovering near by and the enemy has a sat. I think I could offer anything with the word peasce in it and the AI should jump all over it..

I agree entirly but the AI as it comes seems to have an irrationaly stuborn, to the point of racial suicide, streak. It can be Moded to be more resonable and to take note of relative scores somthing which Both Fallen Haven and Captian Kwock have changed in their respective Mods though I have not played enough of the BM to see if an AI will surender however.

Meh, i tried many, many times to make (very good) treaties with the AI, i usually wait for them to like me more (aimable maybe.. i rarely see them like me more than that level)and they always refuse. Always. I never received an offer for a treaty yet, and the AI always refuses all and any gift i send them (such as new planetary colonisation techs, or loads of ressources.)

I even tried a treaty that would cripple me plus give us a lot of bonuses, and they refused.

Also, is it even possible to make deals with neutrals? They are just there as fodder apparently.

Without ammo, nice guns are just sophisticated clubs.

Like I said earlier in this thread, I offered them the moon and stars (literally) and they refused.

Simple solution - Just kill them all.

Hey, i managed to do something with the AI a few minutes ago.
I played a "nomad" race (with only one planet, because it is a necesity to be able to contact other races.. for some reason.)
I met one neutral race in a far-away corner of the universe, and i felt i should give them stuff so when "true" AI arrives, that neutral will kick them out.
So i traded all my techs in exchange for 1000 mineral. I expected a big "No, blah blah blah". The standard AI reaction to everything.
..But they accepted! Woa!
But it didnt help my standing with them at all. They refused everything else i asked them, like small 5% trade treaties, or big treaties were i give them everything possible for no cost to them, and they refuse.

Arg, the AI is SO frustrating.

Without ammo, nice guns are just sophisticated clubs.

whoa that quote is sig worthy..

quick question: what are neutral???

Neutrals are minor AI empires which never expand outside their home systems as opposed to the major ones which can expand freely and are meant to provide the other protagonists in the game.

The key thing about treaties in SEV is that until you make several treaties and play several games, you probably won't know what the treaty does. *sigh* Yeah, I'm also a victim of the "non-aggression" treaty preventing me from colonizing an empty system. At least this treaty isn't as bad as the "No Intel" treaty option that means not only can you not conduct Intel operations against the other empire in the treaty, you also can't conduct Intel operations AT ALL. *REALLY BIG SIGH*

Just so you know, the treaty name does NOT do anything! Its fluff, and the stock AI is a bit random in how it chooses names. Read the actual treaty clauses before you sign..

Thx, and it is actually my sig that i use on all the forums im on.

Without ammo, nice guns are just sophisticated clubs.