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Is there a way to make gas giants not be tiny or small?

Submitted by Fluidarii on Fri, 2006-12-22 23:06. Space Empires V General

I noticed that the prohibition of gas giants having no atmosphere appears to be in the atmospheres data file, and I was wondering if it was possible to mod your own size/atmosphere/composition restrictions.

Specifically I was wondering if there would be a way to make it impossible for gas giants to be small or tiny. I know it's just a game, but I just have difficulty with the notion of a Pluto-sized gas giant and it irritates me. Yes, I am petty, why do you ask?

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but I just have difficulty with the notion

Submitted by JosEPh on Fri, 2006-12-22 23:18.

As I have problems with Ice worlds having 169*C temps. Shouldn't that be -X*C?

Or rock planets with an atmosphere next to a sun (inner orbit) with -50*C ?

Are things kinda mixed up? Or is it just this wacky Quadrant we all live in!??

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Don't worry about it too

Submitted by cordas on Sat, 2006-12-23 02:43.

Don't worry about it too much, once we get out into the stars we are going to find far weirder stuff. Its going to be stranger than we can possible imagine.

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Does ice imply solid-state

Submitted by 2ltben on Sat, 2006-12-23 03:13.

Does ice imply solid-state H2O?

Also, what distances to the hexes represent? I've been assuming 1 AU, which would, in that light, mean it is very plausible. Maybe not likely, but plausible.

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More than H2O Freezes

Submitted by Omnius on Sat, 2006-12-23 10:02.

I would imagine that an ice world can be a frozen body of multiple composition. Some of our own gas giants actually have cores of liquid hydrogen and metallic hydrogen. I wonder how dense metallic hydrogen is? Might make good hull armor. Cordas is correct that we'll discover some really strange stuff as we explore the depths of space. Heck we already have.
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Yes; in a mod folder (never

Submitted by Fyron on Sat, 2006-12-23 14:00.

Yes; in a mod folder (never mod stock data files), just delete all tiny and small Gas Giant entries from StellarObjectTypes.txt.

You can alter the temperature formula in Formulas.txt. You can use PlanetAtmosphereName as a variable, so there is probably something for planet type you could use in IFF calls to set it up by type.

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Hydrogen is a nonmetal. It

Submitted by 2ltben on Sat, 2006-12-23 14:18.

Hydrogen is a nonmetal. It can, however, be ionically bonded with a metal. Crystallized hydrogen itself has a very light density, 0.088 gm/cm3, meaning it'll float in just about everything except other phases of hydrogen.

My chemistry, however, sucks. I'm more of a Physics person.

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Hydrogen

Submitted by evilginger on Sat, 2006-12-23 14:37.

At extreme presures & low temperitures such as found in the cores of Gas giants hydrogen will behave like a metal.

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Metallic hydrogen

Submitted by Phoenix-D on Sat, 2006-12-23 14:48.

2ltben wrote:
Hydrogen is a nonmetal. It can, however, be ionically bonded with a metal. Crystallized hydrogen itself has a very light density, 0.088 gm/cm3, meaning it'll float in just about everything except other phases of hydrogen.

My chemistry, however, sucks. I'm more of a Physics person.

"Metallic hydrogen" is a specific form of hydrogen found only at ridiculously high pressure.

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