1.20 impressions?

Went to save a game. Got an error writing the save. Got that error 3 times then the game blew up.

if you havent already send the problem save game to SE5 at MM dot com with as much infomation as you can about what you where running it on or doing at the same time

but still have that annoying crash when looking at ship stats. Also it's great that ships no longer merge into each others, but they tend to struggle manouvering around...

No MP fix. I'm quitting! Will use cd as a glass coaster!

Live by the sword, die by the sword...

This is interesting. I upgraded to 5.1.20 and resumed my latest game. My empire race portrait has been changed to Xi-Chung. My other two saved games have completely different race portraits. Everything else is correct. The right flag, the correct ships, just the race portrait is changed.

When I started a new game and loaded my empire, everything comes back to normal. But I don't want to go back 34.3 years to start over. Ugh! So now I'm playing with humanoid ants. Which is kind of funny but I wish I could get my people back.

Death, destruction, mayhem and confusion. Another perfect day.

I guess my prediction that the game would be playable (for me) by Christmas got crapped on. Im tired and im done with the expectations. Ill forget about this game for now and check back how things are on february or march. Happy hollidays folks, see ya.

Funny, I remember getting that bug in some mods or stock (can't remember) in SEIV

It is working fine for me so far. The Alliance Bug is fixed and the Resource limit bug is gone too. So far so good.

1.20 rocks as far as I'm concerned. PD and combat in general seems to be working better. everything moves faster. I haven't had any problems saving/loading games. computer AI is building decent ships. great patch! merry christmas!

I think we may have still a killer bug. In my only 1.20 game, we were being 9 empires. Midgame, 2 new ones appeared, and since then no load or save were possible; the save seemed corrupt.

Same for me. Did you notice some new empires appearing midgame?

working well and I have not found a bug yet, but if you do please report the damned thing preferably with a saved game don’t just grouse about it and hope Aaron will detect the problem by the use of his paranormal powers and fix it using his miraculous ones

I just started a new 1.2 game with the Balance Mod 1.0 (+the Mount sort tweak thingie) and for the first time I chose breathable atmos only for colonization. When I went to build my first ship I had the choice of Frigate, Colony Ship, Freighter or.... Baseship.

Sure enough I'm building my own star destroyer out of the gate and it's kinda humorous.

Anybody else? Bug ya think?

Kerry-

"...I say we must move forward, not backward, upward, but forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom!"
-Kodos for President

Possibly a bug but whether its 1.2 balance mod or the file edit you made I don’t know but base ships to start with would be cool

I got the same thing. This is a major game breaker and I hope they fix it soon. Not being able to save in a game like this and/or having to revert to a saved game from an hour ago is more than frustrating. I hope tracking this down gets immediate and undivided attention. I was doing nothing unusual that I can think of. Was just playing along and started getting unable to save errors on the autosaves. It almost seemed to me like maybe they forgot to close the file after they wrote to it. Just a thought.

PS I did not notice any new races showing up. ie No new player turn bars at the end of turn anyway.

forget about using Balance mod 1.0 with a work round use Balance Mod 1.01 which does not need it see if that works better

I switched my Balance Mod from 1.0 to 1.01 and I still have baseships available. It's darn fun. Upgrades seem to be problematic though. When you are given the choice of what to upgrade you ship to, you get of all the ships that currently exist. Umm... no.

Kerry-

"...I say we must move forward, not backward, upward, but forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom!"
-Kodos for President

I've carried on a game from 1.17, there's about 10 empires in it now, however now every 2nd turn the game freezes on the 'processing all players' blue bar, and the game has to be restarted. Anyone else getting this? This is all very annoying and they’re was no mention of previous saves not working, I'm new to SEV but I'd like to see it actually working!

Not able to process e-mail game. Anyone actually played a ver 1.20 e-mail without getting a black screen when trying to process turn?

Caius

hmmmm seems so get black screen even on PBEM...........all 5 of us have tried to be the host re. 1.20 and get the same result. You think this simple function would have been tested before release??

Same here !!!!

I have reinstalled everything from the ground up and all is good now. Not only did I have Baseships from the get go but any ship and/or fighter would hippity hop over and around it like it was a planet. Then the Baseship would start to jump too, driving the whole battle into the sky where you couldn't see it happen! That's some kind of fun.

Kerry-

"...I say we must move forward, not backward, upward, but forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom!"
-Kodos for President

I reinstalled and put 1.20 directly when had the crash. The problem is not there.

Looks like the game is finally playable after playing a few hours,and kwoks A.I makes it fun.

At last.

maybe it's jus tme, but it seems the AI (1.17 and 1.20 stock and also BM) doesn't have a clue about carriers and fighters. I'm at my 12th game, i think, and i've yet to see an enemy fighter away from their homeplanets... thinking of it, I'm not sure i?ve seen them depending a planet either...

A.

The AI does use fighters in carriers away from planets, just unfortunatly this is a rather rare occasion, they are slightly more likely to launch them in planetry defence but they often keep them on the ground to fight off troops at which they are very good at, at higher levels they have far more tonnage available to them than troops.

I haven't done a single planet assault yet, but I suppose I'd flatten the planet before even thinking of dropping someone without having air superiority so...

I miss carrier wars. Right now, it seems to me, once you send out a squadron (24 fighters) of torpedo bombers (fighters with heavy rockets), one of fighter-bombers and one of air superiority figheters (my usual carrier complement combination) you can pretty much dominate a system.

Anyway, it's already better than before, when the Ai didn't seem to think of PD at all, now I thikn it was a bit tweaked that way (BM)

A

I'm using the Steam version, patched to 1.20 with Balance Mod 1.01 starting from a fresh game and I get an endless turn update around turn 8-9. Restarting and reloading the last savegame doesn't help it nor does cancelling my build queues or ship movement orders (hey, I tried it just in case.) I have to think of myself as a glass half full kind of guy but after however many months I've yet to have a decent game of Space Empires 5. The last patch was most successful for me with no really showstopper bugs but the AI is too stoopid.

Well, I'm further than I've been able to get up until now. Still have a major issue with memory leaks (38 MB after load, 176 MB after 1 turn!), but as long as I restart every 6 or 7 turns, it's running good.

The balance mod is coming along quite well, and makes the game actually playable. My only complaint is that research does become useless after 30 years or so, but I'll probably create a diff patch to fix that for my own playing.

Hopefully, the next patch will finally kill the memory leak issue.

I am sure Captain Kwok will be intrested in seeing that saved game if you still have it, send him a PM and I am sure he will respond promptly.

I started a new game and saved over it. The new game has been going for many tens of turns with no problems. I had some of other programs I deleted off my PC so maybe it was because of them.

Applied the 1.20 patch and resumed my previous game. So far, the only difference I see is that when I go to upgrade a ship, a popup now appears that asks me to confirm which ships are to be upgraded. Glad to see it!

However... Races still always refuse to surrender... Still encounter game crashes when I go into strategic combat, and select "Speed X8" before hitting the "start" button... Game still goes into rapid "stutter" mode after playing a while.

As a result, I'm still disappointed.

Other Upgrade/Change Suggestions:

1. Any possibility of being able to run SE V in something higher than 1024 x 768? The game looks very poor on my 24" LCD monitor.
2. I like the expanded research, but when you spend a kazillion points on research, only to find that (for example) the new mine is only 1 unit bigger than the previous model, it seems like a real waste of time and research. I think this should definitely be reworked.
3. Speaking of research... I far prefer the previous (SEIV) option of creating a linear research queue, where the program would research items one after another, instead of having to click, click, click, click away to set precise percentages. The new (SE V) method is annoying and fatiguing.

(No doubt these ideas should go onto a different thread somewhere on this website...)

dont research mines so much then.

but you are right about point 3...............
Its how the game is at this time,maybe it will improve maybe it will not.
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Every great fall begins with a single mistake, YOU just made your's........

Well -- if you want to get on to Medium or Large sized mines, you have to continue researching the bloody things. Since there's nothing that I can add into my existing mine that is "1 kiloton" in size, then the added research is useless.

I guess, then, that my point is: Make the minimum increments = 5 kt. That way, you actually gain the benefit of being able to add at least an extra plate of armour. Otherwise, additional research is either totally useless or a "delay of game".

play with full tech then........
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Every great fall begins with a single mistake, YOU just made your's........

The launch/recover window works much better now.

It still crashes when recovering sats remotely.

I'm frustrated that I can't select older tech to put on ships and units. And that the ship/unit design is cleared when you set/change the size.

Yes Mines gain a useless amount of space. With WP's you at least get 10 each time, something you can use. (50 would be better, and even).
Heavy Carriers have a worse problem they are only slightly (50 I think) larger than a carrier at the same level, but they lose 2 engines. Means Heavy Carriers are never worth building if you plan to have them move with fast fleets.

My only beef is the A.I turns are still frustratingly long when your well into a game.I hope increasing A.I processing is still going to be worked on.

On the game launch window there is a button called Settings. I was able to change my resolution to a glorious 1680 x 1050 (32) that way.

Game works like a charm - if u got problems, try intalling without all those player mods...

With most games,you might have a point. With this one, you don't.

Try making a mod, and you'll quickly see why -- the game will spit out any sytax mistakes instantly, leaving you with the only concern of "gigo" mistakes like techs that don't exist It shouldn't be possible to crash the game with the data files.
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Hm, it looks like it might not be a good idea to lay out any cash for this product yet? Yes? No? Strategy First is offering it with Star Fury, which looks kind of cool, for $30, downloadable. Maybe I'll buy it now at that price and then just put it away until the general consensus is that playability/fun outweighs frustration.

I wouldnt pay and play right now

don't knock the research, all that you have to do is hold down the "shift" key and it goes up/down at 10% each time. and if you were EVER a hardcore SE fan than you would know that SE5 has gone back to how SE3 research was. SE games top all the other crapy 4X games out there and I doubt any of you could come close to being true gamers if you can't figure out how to play it. I feel sorry for aaron haveing to deal with you complainers. he is one guy makeing a game that the largest game companies can't even think of, a game that is really FUN not pretty like 99% of the games out there. the large game companies have what? hundreds of beta testers? well we are the beta testers for SE5, yes it allready got tested but what did we hear then? "why isin't the game out yet, what is taking so long???!!!" well you wanted the game out and it is out, no all the bugs are not out, but you wanted the game out NOW so it is out NOW allthough not fully bug free, so try to think about ppl other than yourselves ok?

Take a breather, Sefter...

... and direct some of that pre-pubescent frustration elsewhere, at least towards someone who actually did pitch a juvenile hissy fit about "wanting the game out now", which sounds equally immature. Instead of becoming a "true gamer" (however defined or whatever sort of accomplishment that could possibly represent), perhaps spending some time to learn some etiquette or even how to spell might be a good idea. Ah, but then again, how much grammar or social skills does one truly require to ask "Do you want fries with that"? My mistake.

That was perhaps a little over the top, Cdnawacs.

I had a colony ship out of supply, so I fleeted it up with a Frigate. Then I gave the fleet orders to colonize a nearby planet.

The frigate was used as the colony materials! The colony ship (and its colonist cargo) remained in orbit, but I had people on the planet as well. I then used that to colonize another planet one orbit ring closer to the sun. Anyone seen this behavior before?

I love this game and think it is one of the best on the market. It takes real imagination and patience. If you want a simple 1st person shooter to satisfy your short attention span then play something else. I'm a noob and I haven't had a decent game yet BUT this is the 5th game in a series. Obviously, someone is doing something right. If I understand correctly SE-IV took some years to be bebugged. Well, be patient. Constructive critisism is alway helpfull, but go cry someplace else. I wish I had the skills to help Aaron, but I don't. So, I bought his game and hope he can make his dream come true and SE-V will be at its best.

If some of you clowns are so smart, why don't YOU fix the AI!

Not new but it doesn’t happen all that often I haven’t seen it at all and I started with 1.13. The original mention of it involved all the ships in the fleet being used up in colonizing. What version are you using?

if you've got a savegame of this happening in 1.20 can you please send it to Malfador?

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