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Weapon Platforms and Ground Combat

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Submitted by SirKid on Wed, 2006-11-29 09:47. Space Empires V General

I invaded a planet that had a lot of weapon platforms. I lost about 5 ships getting the troops on the ground, great drama by the way. When the ground combat began, I thought I was in trouble because of all the WPs but come to find out the WPs could not fire on the ground troops. My ground troops proceeded to take them out one after another and only stopped when they ran out of ammo. So, I decided that I did not want this to happen to me and went to modify my WPs. I was disappointed to find out that there are no anti-troop weapons that can be put on a WP. I think this should to be fixed. Wps should be allowed to defend against ground troops.

I'm not a modder so if someone could give me instructions on how to mod this and make sure the AI uses them I would appreciate it.

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Add Ground Damage

Submitted by Captain Kwok on Wed, 2006-11-29 15:20.

You'd have to add ground damage amounts to each weapon (look at Small APBs for an example) that WPs can use. You'll also have to add some additional target types, like troops.

There may be some issues with the strength of space weapons versus ground troops you might want to work out.

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Need turrets

Submitted by Comit on Wed, 2006-11-29 15:26.

I sorta picture weapon platforms as massive, slow moving guns always pointed towards the sky; and that they'd be too slow for troops. Even the frigates are huge by comparison, they can potentially shuttle millions of people around.

Maybe a new unit class is in order: Turrets. Anti-troop static defenses.

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Turrets

Submitted by Captain Kwok on Wed, 2006-11-29 15:30.

In planning for another mod that I'm working on, I've got a turret unit that uses the small weapons and would about twice the size of a large fighter.

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WP's

Submitted by Arius32 on Wed, 2006-11-29 19:19.

wouldn't it be simpler to just add "troops" to the target types of point defence wepons that you usually cram in on the WP ?

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Engineless Troops

Submitted by Fishman on Fri, 2006-12-01 00:33.

Comit wrote:
Maybe a new unit class is in order: Turrets. Anti-troop static defenses.
What's the difference between a turret and a troop? Wouldn't an engineless troop accomplish the same task?

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bonuses for no mobility

Submitted by Comit on Fri, 2006-12-01 01:31.

Fishman wrote:
Comit wrote:
Maybe a new unit class is in order: Turrets. Anti-troop static defenses.
What's the difference between a turret and a troop? Wouldn't an engineless troop accomplish the same task?

Bonuses at the cost of mobility. Range, defenses, that sorta thing. Sort of a universal strategy game element there :X

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SirKid wrote:Wps should be

Submitted by Das123 on Fri, 2006-12-01 03:19.

SirKid wrote:
Wps should be allowed to defend against ground troops.

I agree. Too much to micromanage otherwise.

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I like the idea of giving

Submitted by SirKid on Fri, 2006-12-01 10:05.

I like the idea of giving the Point Defense a ground attack capability. Can anyone give me an idea of how to do this?

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The difference is that...

Submitted by Fallen Haven on Fri, 2006-12-01 10:20.

Platform are much thougher than any troop, and possibly carry a lot more lethal weapons than what your troops can have.

Personnaly, i think only Point-Defenses should be able to fire at troops. They are too small and too close for the other weapons that are made to fight at long range. Besides, Platform are supposed to be for orbital defense, they should need some ground support to defend against ground assault.

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See Balance Mod for example...

Submitted by Captain Kwok on Fri, 2006-12-01 10:51.

SirKid:

Look at the Balance Mod's Components.txt for an example - it has PD weapons with ground damage added already.

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PD and Troops

Submitted by Bugbear on Fri, 2006-12-01 11:58.

Yes, and it very supprising when my two dropship of troops were gutted by the 3 ground bases. Eye-wink It was kind of nice not have one straegy not when every time. I like the move counter move the balance mod gave more.

But the question is. Is there a weapon that when used from orbit on a planet it only will attack WP or troops?

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